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<blockquote data-quote="lutecius" data-source="post: 5430448" data-attributes="member: 60332">yes, the marketing certainly didn't help.&nbsp;rivalry explains edition wars, it's not what makes people pick a side in the first place (ie like or dislike a new edition).the stated goal of PF was backwards compatibility, that's not the point of a new edition.oh yeah, resistance to change. I hear that a lot from people who approve some changes and have a hard time accepting that many others don't (not talking about you or even gamers in particular, I've also heard that about vista or work procedures that were eventually abandoned...)I stopped playing a couple of years after AD&amp;D2's release precisely because it didn't change enough. 3e brought me back because I loved the changes but I was ready for a new, very different edition long before 4e was announced. I just happened to hate the shift toward gamist design.others probably had different experiences but my point is tastes and the changes themselves are what matters. more often than not, this &quot;resistance to change&quot; marketing/corporate bspeak tells more about its proponents mindset than anything else.and I don't think it needed to reach this proportion. the fact that&nbsp; <a href="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/writersroom/8115-Complete-Mike-Mearls-D-D-4th-Edition-Essentials-Interview" target="_blank">4e's lead developer </a> acknowledges this rift and all but admits that they did something wrong with 4e only confirms my impression.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lutecius, post: 5430448, member: 60332"] yes, the marketing certainly didn't help. rivalry explains edition wars, it's not what makes people pick a side in the first place (ie like or dislike a new edition). the stated goal of PF was backwards compatibility, that's not the point of a new edition. oh yeah, resistance to change. I hear that a lot from people who approve some changes and have a hard time accepting that many others don't (not talking about you or even gamers in particular, I've also heard that about vista or work procedures that were eventually abandoned...) I stopped playing a couple of years after AD&D2's release precisely because it didn't change enough. 3e brought me back because I loved the changes but I was ready for a new, very different edition long before 4e was announced. I just happened to hate the shift toward gamist design. others probably had different experiences but my point is tastes and the changes themselves are what matters. more often than not, this "resistance to change" marketing/corporate bspeak tells more about its proponents mindset than anything else. and I don't think it needed to reach this proportion. the fact that [URL="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/writersroom/8115-Complete-Mike-Mearls-D-D-4th-Edition-Essentials-Interview"]4e's lead developer [/URL] acknowledges this rift and all but admits that they did something wrong with 4e only confirms my impression. [/QUOTE]

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