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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5430489" data-attributes="member: 4348">And as long as you aren't a munchkin with 12 different classes, 6 different races, and 20 different optional profiles picked up in 3.X...I find that converting a 3.X character over to 4e is actually EASIER to do than from an older edition to 3e.Probably because if you remove the powers of many of the characters, and change their saves to Fort, Ref, Will defenses (which is pretty simple actually) all 4e is, is a revised D20/3.5 edition.The biggest change really is the Vancian magic differences...but then they changed that from older editions to 3e anyways.&nbsp; The spellcasting tables were completely different, and the spells themselves were different most of the time.There are more differences overall between the shift of AD&amp;D to 3e, then there are from 3e to 4e.Edit:&nbsp; I want to add I know from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE (and I know many of you would counter with personal experience) that 3e characters are actually relatively simple to transfer to 4e.&nbsp; In fact, utilizing C&amp;C I have actually run games where people have both 3.5 characters and 4e characters.&nbsp; The hardest part is combat with the monsters...where if you use 4e monsters...all damage from 3.5 characters at lower levels has to be multiplied by 2 (or3 depending on my mood), or if you use 3.5 monsters all damage from 4e character has to be taken to base damage (wpn for aw) OR, allow once per combat that one of their specials can do up to 15 damage max...just depending on which creature.Tactics and other things actually can flow quite nicely from 3.5 to 4e...since they both were basically based on miniatures on a board/mat of squares for tactical concerns.AD&amp;D can also be used with C&amp;C for a 3.X mixture of a campaign just as easily...but recently most of it's been done with 3.X and 4e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5430489, member: 4348"] And as long as you aren't a munchkin with 12 different classes, 6 different races, and 20 different optional profiles picked up in 3.X...I find that converting a 3.X character over to 4e is actually EASIER to do than from an older edition to 3e. Probably because if you remove the powers of many of the characters, and change their saves to Fort, Ref, Will defenses (which is pretty simple actually) all 4e is, is a revised D20/3.5 edition. The biggest change really is the Vancian magic differences...but then they changed that from older editions to 3e anyways. The spellcasting tables were completely different, and the spells themselves were different most of the time. There are more differences overall between the shift of AD&D to 3e, then there are from 3e to 4e. Edit: I want to add I know from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE (and I know many of you would counter with personal experience) that 3e characters are actually relatively simple to transfer to 4e. In fact, utilizing C&C I have actually run games where people have both 3.5 characters and 4e characters. The hardest part is combat with the monsters...where if you use 4e monsters...all damage from 3.5 characters at lower levels has to be multiplied by 2 (or3 depending on my mood), or if you use 3.5 monsters all damage from 4e character has to be taken to base damage (wpn for aw) OR, allow once per combat that one of their specials can do up to 15 damage max...just depending on which creature. Tactics and other things actually can flow quite nicely from 3.5 to 4e...since they both were basically based on miniatures on a board/mat of squares for tactical concerns. AD&D can also be used with C&C for a 3.X mixture of a campaign just as easily...but recently most of it's been done with 3.X and 4e. [/QUOTE]

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