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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5434083" data-attributes="member: 6667746">To you.And there is another problem that creates fragmentation, insults like this that demean anothers POV because it is not exactly aligned with the one stating it, such as the video which MANY found insulting.I could insult you back for this portion, but wont. I will just tell you to learn that you have no right to force your opinion on others, no matter what you think,individuals are what humans are and have every right to fel a certain way about anything.Which is the crux of what I was saying, that too many people trying to force anothers views to change, only causing more fragmentation of society and communities in ALL parts of life.What you seem to miss is that marketing does have an eff you component in the way it is done, because they want to say you are not using the correct product unless you are using theirs. Watching Pitchemen now in Discovery Channel, you can see clearly how there is a difference in putting something or someone down as inferior, to when you just say "this is so good i can't believe it".One you are putting something down and purposefully trying to insult it, which in turn insults those that believe in it. Mudslinging is what it is.The other you are just showing off your product rather than trying to compare others to it, and saying how well this works, and letting people know about it.Sham-Wow first came out as a product that was better than paper towels, cloth towels, work rags, etc. It didnt say using those was bag, but it did say that it could perform better, and did so that many believed it so. The companies of those other products never really made claims to do all it could, so couldn't complain, and Sham-Wow cannot be used after a bath, you don't wipe your face with it and throw it away, and you didn't put it under your oil-pan when you changed the oil in your car.It was a similar, not competing product, that had qualities of all the others, but did some function they all did, better. It didn't seek to replace them as it wasn't made to do all the things those other products were meant to do.So while it was laughed at, like you laugh at the video, people took notice, and still buy all the others, but also have a Sham-Wow now added to them to handle what the Sham-Wow does, while still having the other products for what the Sham-Wow doesn't do.Others like Oxy-Clean tell you to throw all those other products away and use just it. That can be insulting, but it is what marketing is for to get you to buy OUR product not theirs.You will never See the Oreck guy saying, "Last year model was crap you should jsut throw it out cause using it was wrong, so get this year's model". What he does is just show how this years model has advantages and improvements over last year's and lets the customer decide if they need those features.Marketing for 4th edition D&D, pretty much said "If you aren't playing D&D with 4th edition you have been playing it wrong."They attacked the product and the followers. Had they jsut shown how better a newer bersion could be, without saying the old version wasn't good, then it wouldn't have insulted anyone.Marketing CAN and DOES have a huge impact on how a new product or piece of marketing is concerned at to what customers stay with the product or which ones leave to a new product that may have morals closer to the consumers own."Procter and Gamble wa founded by people that worship Satan." Attitudes and morals can easily guide the market into which products its buys.Baatezu and Tanar'ri anyone?Something as simple as that can insult people, as well as divide the market.Want more examples, I will just give you one.Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone v Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.The reason for the change to the US titled was to Americanize it and in part prevent culture shock from causing the book to not sale, no matter how you look at it and which reason you believe. There was no reason to do so. Scholastic just wanted to change it is the only reason.That has been debate and cause for much insult to the intelligence of the American fans since, and even Scholastic's own forums has heated debates about it form time to time.</blockquote>

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