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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 5439529" data-attributes="member: 29112">Actually, a lot of similar, and even nearly identical criticisms are levelled at 4e, by (generally, at the time of posting, previous) players/DMs of said game. Increasingly so, as time's gone on.Coincidence? Maybe. But I doubt it.Who said anything about "briefly skim"? Other than yourself, I mean.Er. And where did this "anger at CharOps" and "getting mad" come from, while you're at it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />No, really. I would like to know. Because it must be from someone else, and therefore, I'd like to know who, and also why I'm automatically being lumped in with them. Thanks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Also, note that nowhere did I say that 3e is without problems. In fact, I drew quite a bit of fire, let's just say, at one stage, for posting my criticisms of that very system, *while it was still the number one TTRPG*. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />There are quite a few problems inherent, for which my many and varied house rules provided some relief... I would like to think. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />It's entirely possible for a game to contain "kneejerk reactions" to "forum mantras", as well as some "clumsy" "pandering", while simultaneously addressing real issues, possibly even in clever, elegant ways. Arguably, etc.Doesn't have to be all bad, all good - or all anything, really.And yes, I believe that's the case: 4e is a mixed bag, as is 3e. And 2e, 1e, BD&D, and OD&D. Oh, and Pathfinder. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I should have phrased things differently. For that? Well, my bad.</blockquote>

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