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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3202508" data-attributes="member: 30001">I actually completely disagree which I suppose my participation in the Wee-Jas squabble didn't really demonstrate - but it was so much fun how could I resist.I am essentially hampered by exactly the same thing that real world theologians are hampered by but DnD theologians are not.  In DnD, for example:1.  I can actually prove the source of my magic2.  I can actually cast Commune3.  I don't have to just assert that your paladin is being chaotic - we can actually both observe your paladin losing his powers.4.  I can actually precisely define good and evil and measure it - detection spells being only one measurement techniqueand so on.Our debate resembled real-world theological arguments because we happen to not have recourse to actual paladins, spells, or divine servants."Inquisitions weeding out the blasphemers" IS holy war - nobody defines holy war as "kill them all" except for secular skeptics outside of the faith.  Your statements of what we're talking are exactly the descriptions of every Crusade (internal and external) during the Middle Ages.  They infallibly killed only evil people as far as they were concerned - and given Wee Jas's supposedly lack of interest in moral issues, I'm not sure why you'd caution restraint anyway.And so my LE cleric simply says "is it ok that I be Lawful Evil to serve Wee Jas" during a Commune spell.  I argue that a reasonable interpretation of the spell would get me the answer "Yes".  Importantly - I argue that a Lawful Good member of the faith asking the same question gets the same exact result.  If your paladin has any loyalty to the priorities and laws of the faith then, that pretty much ends his crusade.  A high level Lawful Good cleric walks outside, and tells the paladin to pipe down because the Lawful Evil cleric is right.</blockquote>

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