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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 3202844" data-attributes="member: 926"><p>I view the power of Paladins to come not from gods, but from the cosmic principles of Law and Good itself, a source of power even greater than the gods. And these cosmic principles of Good and Evil and Law and Chaos are the source of Divine magic. The gods tap into these sources themselves and grant it to their worshipers, but it can be harnessed without godly intervention by those willing to learn. </p><p></p><p>I don't see godless Clerics as getting magic from their willpower or conviction, but from the principles of alignment and Platonic ideals and cosmic forces. </p><p></p><p>I also see Paladins, of any god, as getting their powers directly from the ideals of Lawful Good. They can latch onto gods and belong to orders serving gods, but the gods aren't granting them their powers. Servants and holy warriors of gods are Clerics; Paladins serve Law and Good. As an example: what would happen to a Paladin whose god changed alignment from LG, and the Paladin followed suit and changed alignment to? He wouldn;t be a Paladin anymore. That proves to me that the source of their powers is something above the gods. The gods serve the alignments, too. The gods are agents of the forces of Good and Evil and such just as much as their mortal followers are... they're just higher in the hierarchy.</p><p></p><p>That's why I don't have a problem with a Paladin who worships Wee Jas. The Paladin is getting his powers from some other source, he's just been brought up to venerate the goddess, probably because his family and culture do, and he sticks with her because her precepts arent completely contrary to the principles of Paladinhood (She's Lawful Neutral.) I think the roleplaying opportunities would be enormous, the character having to reconciling the Evil influences in is church and the less than ideal precepts of his church with his personal faith as well as his devotion to Law and Good. Maybe he can do it, and he stays pure and true. Maybe he can't, and the internal conflict eats away at his soul and he falls into the pit of the Blackguard?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it would be fun as hell to play, and the next Greyhawk character I get to make is going to be that character.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aaron L, post: 3202844, member: 926"] I view the power of Paladins to come not from gods, but from the cosmic principles of Law and Good itself, a source of power even greater than the gods. And these cosmic principles of Good and Evil and Law and Chaos are the source of Divine magic. The gods tap into these sources themselves and grant it to their worshipers, but it can be harnessed without godly intervention by those willing to learn. I don't see godless Clerics as getting magic from their willpower or conviction, but from the principles of alignment and Platonic ideals and cosmic forces. I also see Paladins, of any god, as getting their powers directly from the ideals of Lawful Good. They can latch onto gods and belong to orders serving gods, but the gods aren't granting them their powers. Servants and holy warriors of gods are Clerics; Paladins serve Law and Good. As an example: what would happen to a Paladin whose god changed alignment from LG, and the Paladin followed suit and changed alignment to? He wouldn;t be a Paladin anymore. That proves to me that the source of their powers is something above the gods. The gods serve the alignments, too. The gods are agents of the forces of Good and Evil and such just as much as their mortal followers are... they're just higher in the hierarchy. That's why I don't have a problem with a Paladin who worships Wee Jas. The Paladin is getting his powers from some other source, he's just been brought up to venerate the goddess, probably because his family and culture do, and he sticks with her because her precepts arent completely contrary to the principles of Paladinhood (She's Lawful Neutral.) I think the roleplaying opportunities would be enormous, the character having to reconciling the Evil influences in is church and the less than ideal precepts of his church with his personal faith as well as his devotion to Law and Good. Maybe he can do it, and he stays pure and true. Maybe he can't, and the internal conflict eats away at his soul and he falls into the pit of the Blackguard? I think it would be fun as hell to play, and the next Greyhawk character I get to make is going to be that character. [/QUOTE]
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