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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8409777" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>So what? </p><p></p><p>No, seriously, so what? I'm not ever going to play a cleric, an aasimar, or dozens of other concepts represented in the books. The game is still, however, missing things that I would immediately play upon release. </p><p></p><p>The fact I can't play enough dnd to play all of the options is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not more stuff should come out, or if the release schedule is fast enough, etc. </p><p></p><p>For clarity, I speak as someone who would prefer they slow it back down and maybe even slow down to 3 books a year.</p><p></p><p>Your argument here relies on the mistaken premise that the rankings of class and subclass would change if they only looked at active characters with the PHB and/or other sources unlocked. This isn't the case. The rankings don't change <em>at all</em>, and so we can know that within the sample being examined, only having the free stuff available is not why the Champion is the most played fighter subclass.</p><p></p><p>I've never encountered this before. What about the Samurai is culturally insensitive?</p><p></p><p>My Eberron campaign's Swarmkeeper has a swarm of flying ferrets. When he earned a boon from a primordial spirit of the woods and the transition between day and night and winter and summer, and was gifted the Stag's shed antlers, he gained the ability to turn one of his ferrets into a large flying ferret, and all his ferrets now have antlers and add his wisdom mod to damage whenever he deals damage from the swarm.</p><p></p><p>You don't see how this idea makes them less unique than they currently are?</p><p></p><p>Why wouldn't a rewrite move the other way, and make them less tied to genies and more interesting and unique?</p><p></p><p>Yeah the idea they're unplayable is just nonsense. Pretty much nothing in 5e hits that mark. In past editions, yeah for sure, but not really in 5e. Especially when it comes to races and some classes subclasses, sorcerer included. Most of the Sorcerer's power is in spellcasting and metamagic, and races just don't modify what a character does <em>that</em> much. Mechanically, race isn't all that important. It primarily matters for character concept.</p><p></p><p>That isn't how sample size works. Sampling thousands of actively used characters with at least the PHB available is going to give fairly reliable data about what is being played.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and Wizards have said multiple times that the simple options like standard human and champion fighter are the most popular options in the game and <em>always have been</em>.</p><p></p><p>Profit could go either way, I suppose, though it's hard to imagine something making mountains of money while being unpopular. Popularity is absolutely an indicator of quality. Maybe you're using the wrong word, in "indicators"? An indicator suggests or points to something, it doesn't prove or guarantee it. 9999 times out of 10000, when someone thinks a popular thing is garbage, they're just being a snob.</p><p></p><p>Quality could reasonably be described as a "a thing that people mostly approve of". I may not like most of what's on pop radio, but I know better than to mistake preference for objective judgement of quality.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8409777, member: 6704184"] So what? No, seriously, so what? I'm not ever going to play a cleric, an aasimar, or dozens of other concepts represented in the books. The game is still, however, missing things that I would immediately play upon release. The fact I can't play enough dnd to play all of the options is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not more stuff should come out, or if the release schedule is fast enough, etc. For clarity, I speak as someone who would prefer they slow it back down and maybe even slow down to 3 books a year. Your argument here relies on the mistaken premise that the rankings of class and subclass would change if they only looked at active characters with the PHB and/or other sources unlocked. This isn't the case. The rankings don't change [I]at all[/I], and so we can know that within the sample being examined, only having the free stuff available is not why the Champion is the most played fighter subclass. I've never encountered this before. What about the Samurai is culturally insensitive? My Eberron campaign's Swarmkeeper has a swarm of flying ferrets. When he earned a boon from a primordial spirit of the woods and the transition between day and night and winter and summer, and was gifted the Stag's shed antlers, he gained the ability to turn one of his ferrets into a large flying ferret, and all his ferrets now have antlers and add his wisdom mod to damage whenever he deals damage from the swarm. You don't see how this idea makes them less unique than they currently are? Why wouldn't a rewrite move the other way, and make them less tied to genies and more interesting and unique? Yeah the idea they're unplayable is just nonsense. Pretty much nothing in 5e hits that mark. In past editions, yeah for sure, but not really in 5e. Especially when it comes to races and some classes subclasses, sorcerer included. Most of the Sorcerer's power is in spellcasting and metamagic, and races just don't modify what a character does [I]that[/I] much. Mechanically, race isn't all that important. It primarily matters for character concept. That isn't how sample size works. Sampling thousands of actively used characters with at least the PHB available is going to give fairly reliable data about what is being played. Oh, and Wizards have said multiple times that the simple options like standard human and champion fighter are the most popular options in the game and [I]always have been[/I]. Profit could go either way, I suppose, though it's hard to imagine something making mountains of money while being unpopular. Popularity is absolutely an indicator of quality. Maybe you're using the wrong word, in "indicators"? An indicator suggests or points to something, it doesn't prove or guarantee it. 9999 times out of 10000, when someone thinks a popular thing is garbage, they're just being a snob. Quality could reasonably be described as a "a thing that people mostly approve of". I may not like most of what's on pop radio, but I know better than to mistake preference for objective judgement of quality. [/QUOTE]
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