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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8410561" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>Remember that they want this to stand without cross referencing Volo’s Guide to Monsters or Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes but not Xanathar’s or Tasha’s (the two books they’re packing it with) nor the Core Rules. It’s quite likely that they’ll publish a separate book with all the variant lineages for the core rules’ lineage options, maybe even cram them into the 2024 PHB, with the idea that this book will stand aside the remastered Core Rules that come out two years later.</p><p></p><p>Here’s the list of potentials:</p><p>01. Aasimar</p><p>02. Aarakocra</p><p>03. Genasi</p><p>04. Goliath</p><p>05. Firbolg</p><p>06. Kenku</p><p>07. Lizardfolk</p><p>08. Tabaxi</p><p>09. Triton</p><p>10. Bugbear</p><p>11. Goblin</p><p>12. Hobgoblin</p><p>13. Kobold</p><p>14. Orc</p><p>15. Yuan-ti</p><p>16. Tortle</p><p>17. Grung</p><p>18. Gith</p><p>19. Changeling*</p><p>20. Kalashtar*</p><p>21. Shifter</p><p>22. Warforged</p><p>23. Centaur</p><p>24. Loxodon</p><p>25. Minotaur</p><p>26. Vedalken*</p><p>27. Simic Hybrid*</p><p>28. Locathah</p><p>29. Verdan*</p><p>30. Leonin</p><p>31. Dhampir</p><p>32. Hexblood</p><p>33. Reborn</p><p>34. Fairy</p><p>35. Harengon</p><p>36. Owlin</p><p></p><p>Clearly, 6 of these lineages aren’t going to make it. And I’ve put 5 asterisks above - 5 lineages that don’t really exist outside of their respective campaign settings. For example, 4e showed us what Warforged and Shifters are like in Nerath and the Realms, so they could be reprinted here, but Kalashtar and Changelings are really specific to Eberron. Verdan are a very specific Goblinoid from Acquisitions, Incorporated campaigns. Vedalken and Simic Hybrids are very much exclusive to Ravnica, save for a few Planeswalkers in other MtG worlds (though I’ve argued in the past that Vedalken are at least highly applicable to represent people the Chiss from Star Wars or the Vulcans from Star Trek).</p><p></p><p>As for Leonin, Loxodons, and Owlins, these are MtG people but are very popular to represent types of characters on other worlds. And they also appear in other MtG worlds. So they’re not counted out. </p><p></p><p>What’s the last one I’d have to cut? I guess it if came down to it they’d cut Warforged, even though those have established stories in FR and Nerath, only because they haven’t established their presence in 5e Realmslore, just 4e. And Nerath is relegated to a few sidelong glances here and there and a “sample pantheon” in the DMG.</p><p></p><p>****edited to reflect Gith and what that means for the count.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8410561, member: 6803643"] Remember that they want this to stand without cross referencing Volo’s Guide to Monsters or Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes but not Xanathar’s or Tasha’s (the two books they’re packing it with) nor the Core Rules. It’s quite likely that they’ll publish a separate book with all the variant lineages for the core rules’ lineage options, maybe even cram them into the 2024 PHB, with the idea that this book will stand aside the remastered Core Rules that come out two years later. Here’s the list of potentials: 01. Aasimar 02. Aarakocra 03. Genasi 04. Goliath 05. Firbolg 06. Kenku 07. Lizardfolk 08. Tabaxi 09. Triton 10. Bugbear 11. Goblin 12. Hobgoblin 13. Kobold 14. Orc 15. Yuan-ti 16. Tortle 17. Grung 18. Gith 19. Changeling* 20. Kalashtar* 21. Shifter 22. Warforged 23. Centaur 24. Loxodon 25. Minotaur 26. Vedalken* 27. Simic Hybrid* 28. Locathah 29. Verdan* 30. Leonin 31. Dhampir 32. Hexblood 33. Reborn 34. Fairy 35. Harengon 36. Owlin Clearly, 6 of these lineages aren’t going to make it. And I’ve put 5 asterisks above - 5 lineages that don’t really exist outside of their respective campaign settings. For example, 4e showed us what Warforged and Shifters are like in Nerath and the Realms, so they could be reprinted here, but Kalashtar and Changelings are really specific to Eberron. Verdan are a very specific Goblinoid from Acquisitions, Incorporated campaigns. Vedalken and Simic Hybrids are very much exclusive to Ravnica, save for a few Planeswalkers in other MtG worlds (though I’ve argued in the past that Vedalken are at least highly applicable to represent people the Chiss from Star Wars or the Vulcans from Star Trek). As for Leonin, Loxodons, and Owlins, these are MtG people but are very popular to represent types of characters on other worlds. And they also appear in other MtG worlds. So they’re not counted out. What’s the last one I’d have to cut? I guess it if came down to it they’d cut Warforged, even though those have established stories in FR and Nerath, only because they haven’t established their presence in 5e Realmslore, just 4e. And Nerath is relegated to a few sidelong glances here and there and a “sample pantheon” in the DMG. ****edited to reflect Gith and what that means for the count. [/QUOTE]
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