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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8424505" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>This is a twisted logic born out of being raised to view everything through a lense that supports laise faire capitalism and a culture that refuses to hold corporations and the wealthy accountable.</p><p></p><p>If we accept this at face value, it still means that the extremely wealthy are inherently unethical. More wealth would be generated by them paying more taxes and those extra taxes being given to the working class so that they have more resources and are able to do more than just survive. In fact, paying a sub-living wage when capable of making a profit while paying more is inherently unethical (I would say inherently immoral) because it stifles the most effective means of promoting the common good in a capitalist economy, which is spending and investment by the masses. Further, companies that monopolise markets are worse for communities than small locally owned business that must compete with others like themselves, and the common good is better served by increasing the number of small business owners rather than the number of wage workers. A wage above the bare minimum to barely survive is required for the masses to be able to achieve those goals.</p><p></p><p>This is a twisting of what is being discussed. Yes it is morally reprehensible for the wealthy to hoard their wealth. High level investment is, however, very often a form of wealth hoarding, and promotes monopolization. That wealth would be further from being hoarded by being taxed and distributed.</p><p></p><p>Citation needed, but also</p><p></p><p>Only partly. The bulk of the responsibility of ethical behavior is on the individual or group acting in a given situation. That certain countries do not hold wealthy individuals and corporations accountable does not remove the responsibility for their own actions from those individuals and corporations.</p><p></p><p>I literally have explicitly said, perhaps in the same post you're quoting, that I don't think Wizards is especially relevant to the discussion of corporate ethics. Please only reply to things I've said when replying to me.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>No, you weren't. At worst, you were responding to a misguided aiming of fairly uncontroversial arguements at a target that probably isn't guilty of any unethical behavior (in this context). You responded as if capitalism was under threat and need you to defend it!</p><p></p><p>Show me who suggest doing so, and where. There are better uses of hay than making straw men to throw rocks at and pretend you're defending the village, I promise.</p><p></p><p>Okay?</p><p></p><p>If that is the case, you <em>wildly </em>misdirected that anger.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8424505, member: 6704184"] This is a twisted logic born out of being raised to view everything through a lense that supports laise faire capitalism and a culture that refuses to hold corporations and the wealthy accountable. If we accept this at face value, it still means that the extremely wealthy are inherently unethical. More wealth would be generated by them paying more taxes and those extra taxes being given to the working class so that they have more resources and are able to do more than just survive. In fact, paying a sub-living wage when capable of making a profit while paying more is inherently unethical (I would say inherently immoral) because it stifles the most effective means of promoting the common good in a capitalist economy, which is spending and investment by the masses. Further, companies that monopolise markets are worse for communities than small locally owned business that must compete with others like themselves, and the common good is better served by increasing the number of small business owners rather than the number of wage workers. A wage above the bare minimum to barely survive is required for the masses to be able to achieve those goals. This is a twisting of what is being discussed. Yes it is morally reprehensible for the wealthy to hoard their wealth. High level investment is, however, very often a form of wealth hoarding, and promotes monopolization. That wealth would be further from being hoarded by being taxed and distributed. Citation needed, but also Only partly. The bulk of the responsibility of ethical behavior is on the individual or group acting in a given situation. That certain countries do not hold wealthy individuals and corporations accountable does not remove the responsibility for their own actions from those individuals and corporations. I literally have explicitly said, perhaps in the same post you're quoting, that I don't think Wizards is especially relevant to the discussion of corporate ethics. Please only reply to things I've said when replying to me. :rolleyes: No, you weren't. At worst, you were responding to a misguided aiming of fairly uncontroversial arguements at a target that probably isn't guilty of any unethical behavior (in this context). You responded as if capitalism was under threat and need you to defend it! Show me who suggest doing so, and where. There are better uses of hay than making straw men to throw rocks at and pretend you're defending the village, I promise. Okay? If that is the case, you [I]wildly [/I]misdirected that anger. [/QUOTE]
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