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<blockquote data-quote="Echohawk" data-source="post: 8637202" data-attributes="member: 9849">If we're including other goblinoids in the comparison, then we would also need to look at the changes to hobgoblins and bugbears between/within other editions. I haven't checked, but I strongly suspect that both of those changed more than vanilla goblins did. (I'm still a bit surprised by how consistent the goblin has remained compared to... well, most monsters really.)I agree that the sudden change to fey seems like a more radical change than any one of the things on my list. It also comes a little out of left field to me. During a quick perusal, I didn't find any indications or hints in previous lore that goblins might be fey. I don't particularly mind the new fey origin, but it feels sudden.Looking at a full list of changes in Monsters of the Multiverse, and following [USER=53176]@Leatherhead[/USER] 's excellent <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/let%E2%80%99s-read-mordenkainen-presents-monsters-of-the-multiverse.686161/" target="_blank">Let's Read</a> thread. I also agree that the only (somewhat) comparable mid-edition changes to monsters would be from 3.0 to 3.5. Third edition relied heavily on crunchy numbers in monster stat blocks, so 3.0-&gt;3.5 had many more numbers change. In terms of lore though, early 5e to current 5e now seems to be comparable to 3.0-&gt;3.5—small changes all over the place, and a few creatures where, if you look closely, there are much more significant updates.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Echohawk, post: 8637202, member: 9849"] If we're including other goblinoids in the comparison, then we would also need to look at the changes to hobgoblins and bugbears between/within other editions. I haven't checked, but I strongly suspect that both of those changed more than vanilla goblins did. (I'm still a bit surprised by how consistent the goblin has remained compared to... well, most monsters really.) I agree that the sudden change to fey seems like a more radical change than any one of the things on my list. It also comes a little out of left field to me. During a quick perusal, I didn't find any indications or hints in previous lore that goblins might be fey. I don't particularly [I]mind[/I] the new fey origin, but it feels sudden. Looking at a full list of changes in [I]Monsters of the Multiverse[/I], and following [USER=53176]@Leatherhead[/USER] 's excellent [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/let%E2%80%99s-read-mordenkainen-presents-monsters-of-the-multiverse.686161/']Let's Read[/URL] thread. I also agree that the only (somewhat) comparable mid-edition changes to monsters would be from 3.0 to 3.5. Third edition relied heavily on crunchy numbers in monster stat blocks, so 3.0->3.5 had many more numbers change. In terms of lore though, early 5e to current 5e now seems to be comparable to 3.0->3.5—small changes all over the place, and a few creatures where, if you look closely, there are much more significant updates. [/QUOTE]

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