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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 1755271" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p><strong>delericho</strong></p><p></p><p>You just described the most sure-fire way to make sure I don't buy 4e, and that a great, great many existing D&D gamers would agree with that one. The idea of a "collectable roleplaying game" is something we've laughed at and joked about in these parts, in the vein of "never in a million years."</p><p></p><p>They can't move too far from the existing d20 framework, because if they decide to adopt a whole new game system, not only can players keep playing their 3.x just like 1e/2e or OD&D players keep going, the OGL means that 3rd party companies can keep supporting it indefinitely. Mongoose's Pocket Player's Handbook could give way to a whole new 3rd Party PHB which is little more than a reprinting of the PHB sections of the SRD with new fluff, character creation guidelines and a way for the gaming public to keep playing the game they want instead of having to collect D&D in booster packs.</p><p></p><p>Sure, Hasbro/WotC has pulling power to try and sell the game, but if they alienate their core loyal customers, and try and replace them with Joe Average who buys D&D in booster packs at Wal-Mart at $4 a pack, I don't see 4e surviving. At best it would create a massive schism in D&D as d20 players play the older game with it's buy-just-3-rulebooks model, and newer 4e players collecting Spell Packs, Feat Packs, Magic Item, Class Packs ect. looking for that elusive rare Wish, Vow of Poverty, Holy Avenger, and Bladesinger cards. In the long term, it might even lead the leading d20/OGL company whose PHB became the de facto standard into becoming a new superpower in gaming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 1755271, member: 14159"] [b]delericho[/b] You just described the most sure-fire way to make sure I don't buy 4e, and that a great, great many existing D&D gamers would agree with that one. The idea of a "collectable roleplaying game" is something we've laughed at and joked about in these parts, in the vein of "never in a million years." They can't move too far from the existing d20 framework, because if they decide to adopt a whole new game system, not only can players keep playing their 3.x just like 1e/2e or OD&D players keep going, the OGL means that 3rd party companies can keep supporting it indefinitely. Mongoose's Pocket Player's Handbook could give way to a whole new 3rd Party PHB which is little more than a reprinting of the PHB sections of the SRD with new fluff, character creation guidelines and a way for the gaming public to keep playing the game they want instead of having to collect D&D in booster packs. Sure, Hasbro/WotC has pulling power to try and sell the game, but if they alienate their core loyal customers, and try and replace them with Joe Average who buys D&D in booster packs at Wal-Mart at $4 a pack, I don't see 4e surviving. At best it would create a massive schism in D&D as d20 players play the older game with it's buy-just-3-rulebooks model, and newer 4e players collecting Spell Packs, Feat Packs, Magic Item, Class Packs ect. looking for that elusive rare Wish, Vow of Poverty, Holy Avenger, and Bladesinger cards. In the long term, it might even lead the leading d20/OGL company whose PHB became the de facto standard into becoming a new superpower in gaming. [/QUOTE]
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