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<blockquote data-quote="Tuft" data-source="post: 4802505" data-attributes="member: 60045">It does not have to do with gender, and it does not have to do with being a gamer or non-gamer. Even as a long-time gamer combat can after many years of combat-centric campaigns turn into, as you put it, &quot;if you take out the trash enough, you'll become better at taking out the trash.&quot; Wonderful phrase, by the way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />It would be wonderful if more gaming systems had the kind of openness that actively supported the kind of play you descibe as an alternative - not only to encourage the non-gamers, but also to allow for a change of pace for the regular gamers. (And with &quot;actively support&quot;, I mean doing more than say &quot;its up to the DM&quot; or &quot;just invent a skill challenge&quot; - I mean something that supports, rewards and encourages you to spend time and effort on it.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tuft, post: 4802505, member: 60045"] It does not have to do with gender, and it does not have to do with being a gamer or non-gamer. Even as a long-time gamer combat can after many years of combat-centric campaigns turn into, as you put it, "if you take out the trash enough, you'll become better at taking out the trash." Wonderful phrase, by the way. ;) It would be wonderful if more gaming systems had the kind of openness that [i]actively supported[/i] the kind of play you descibe as an alternative - not only to encourage the non-gamers, but also to allow for a change of pace for the regular gamers. (And with "actively support", I mean doing more than say "its up to the DM" or "just invent a skill challenge" - I mean something that supports, rewards and encourages you to spend time and effort on it.) [/QUOTE]

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