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<blockquote data-quote="Hairfoot" data-source="post: 4808854" data-attributes="member: 23732"><p>Teflon Billy, for the whole thread I've been talking about gamers who don't prioritise on combat, but <em>you </em>have chosen to regard that solely as women. Then you chose to quote a post which allowed you to characterise all non-hack 'n slashers as shallow and infantile, and imply there's no room for them in our hobby.</p><p></p><p>Of course, this is the internets. It's easy to misunderstand what someone's saying and react inappropriately, in which case it helps to point out the miscommunication. It looked like you were doing that, and then you suddenly segued into a barrage of ad hominem - a tactic which has no other purpose than to divert the debate from the genuine topic. That was effective once, but we've all seen Bill O'Reilly now.</p><p></p><p>Accusations like that go both ways, though. Actively excluding women from "a traditionally masculine subculture" is about 40 years out of date, and a bit bizarre, though not as strange as the belief that feminism is "hip and edgy". On that basis, I would suggest that either you're posting from the early 1960s, or that you have a personal aversion to women which motivates you to oppose their participation in roleplaying games.</p><p></p><p>It's okay for you to not want women in your group. D&D has long been a geek's version of the boys-only poker night. You can just say you prefer the company of men, and don't have to justify it by arguing that RPGs and women are both something they're obviously not.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/256227-sexism-d-d-enworld-now-solutions-5.html#post4795748" target="_blank">But it wouldn't!</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hairfoot, post: 4808854, member: 23732"] Teflon Billy, for the whole thread I've been talking about gamers who don't prioritise on combat, but [I]you [/I]have chosen to regard that solely as women. Then you chose to quote a post which allowed you to characterise all non-hack 'n slashers as shallow and infantile, and imply there's no room for them in our hobby. Of course, this is the internets. It's easy to misunderstand what someone's saying and react inappropriately, in which case it helps to point out the miscommunication. It looked like you were doing that, and then you suddenly segued into a barrage of ad hominem - a tactic which has no other purpose than to divert the debate from the genuine topic. That was effective once, but we've all seen Bill O'Reilly now. Accusations like that go both ways, though. Actively excluding women from "a traditionally masculine subculture" is about 40 years out of date, and a bit bizarre, though not as strange as the belief that feminism is "hip and edgy". On that basis, I would suggest that either you're posting from the early 1960s, or that you have a personal aversion to women which motivates you to oppose their participation in roleplaying games. It's okay for you to not want women in your group. D&D has long been a geek's version of the boys-only poker night. You can just say you prefer the company of men, and don't have to justify it by arguing that RPGs and women are both something they're obviously not. [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/256227-sexism-d-d-enworld-now-solutions-5.html#post4795748"]But it wouldn't![/URL] [/QUOTE]
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