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<blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 420655" data-attributes="member: 2238"><p>I largely rewrote it as a commentary on the "gamers persecuted" posts about the sniper and all. Tyler: yeah it did seem silly when I pulled it up. </p><p></p><p>It might as well say "I had problems in school and I can't get over them so you are going to suffer." Its about power really, and people that would seriously write somthing like that want power. Its the "Ill show up at the class reunion with x and show those guys" syndrome. When in reality, if you do that, you just switch places with the jerk that was an <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> to you. </p><p></p><p>One of the things that made me reevaluate my relationship with society and essentially quit identifing with the hacker/gamer/nerd ("oh Im so persecuted") ethos is a converstaion that I had with some friends at the time where we were all talking about how we got screwed over and ostricised. Then I realised that the problem was internal not external. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, reboot. It is not that hard to change. Those other kids were just threatened by you, and were using anything they could to defend themselves. It could have been anything. </p><p></p><p>I think one of the things that causes the problem gamers face is that we buy into the "culture" of the persecuted. Lots of groups do this from homosexuals to differnt racial groups to hackers to gamers. It is a mentality that makes you very defensive and then in the eyes of others, hostile. </p><p></p><p>And also, the view in the manifesto is sort of a selfish point of view to have. That somehow you are more important because you have a talent in somthing noone else has but feel like you are not appreciated for it. The truth is we were all more appreciated than we often thought. And apparently (as pink floyd has pointed out) lots of techers have been <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />s for a very long time. </p><p></p><p>DeamonJr: I have problems with it too. I think it does exactly what you say it does. Funny thing is when I was a teenager I thought some old guy had written it!</p><p></p><p>Umbran: I think that all teenagers FEEL marginalised, however I think that there is a population that feels less marginalised. Odd thing is that I (dont know if anyone else did this) sought out marginalised groups the associate with to justify my feeling marginalised just because I felt my youth slipping away into adulthood. </p><p></p><p>Wow, that was a lot. Hrm. So I guess the solution to all the D&D is bad hype would be to not act like the peasant in "monty pythons holy grail" and just answer the questions of those in charge. When someone says that the sniper plays D&D, just say "yeah, there's a nut in every bag..."</p><p></p><p>Aaron.</p><p></p><p><em>yeah the spelling blows but I'm too tired right now</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jester47, post: 420655, member: 2238"] I largely rewrote it as a commentary on the "gamers persecuted" posts about the sniper and all. Tyler: yeah it did seem silly when I pulled it up. It might as well say "I had problems in school and I can't get over them so you are going to suffer." Its about power really, and people that would seriously write somthing like that want power. Its the "Ill show up at the class reunion with x and show those guys" syndrome. When in reality, if you do that, you just switch places with the jerk that was an :):):):):):):) to you. One of the things that made me reevaluate my relationship with society and essentially quit identifing with the hacker/gamer/nerd ("oh Im so persecuted") ethos is a converstaion that I had with some friends at the time where we were all talking about how we got screwed over and ostricised. Then I realised that the problem was internal not external. :):):):), reboot. It is not that hard to change. Those other kids were just threatened by you, and were using anything they could to defend themselves. It could have been anything. I think one of the things that causes the problem gamers face is that we buy into the "culture" of the persecuted. Lots of groups do this from homosexuals to differnt racial groups to hackers to gamers. It is a mentality that makes you very defensive and then in the eyes of others, hostile. And also, the view in the manifesto is sort of a selfish point of view to have. That somehow you are more important because you have a talent in somthing noone else has but feel like you are not appreciated for it. The truth is we were all more appreciated than we often thought. And apparently (as pink floyd has pointed out) lots of techers have been :):):):):):):)s for a very long time. DeamonJr: I have problems with it too. I think it does exactly what you say it does. Funny thing is when I was a teenager I thought some old guy had written it! Umbran: I think that all teenagers FEEL marginalised, however I think that there is a population that feels less marginalised. Odd thing is that I (dont know if anyone else did this) sought out marginalised groups the associate with to justify my feeling marginalised just because I felt my youth slipping away into adulthood. Wow, that was a lot. Hrm. So I guess the solution to all the D&D is bad hype would be to not act like the peasant in "monty pythons holy grail" and just answer the questions of those in charge. When someone says that the sniper plays D&D, just say "yeah, there's a nut in every bag..." Aaron. [I]yeah the spelling blows but I'm too tired right now[/I] [/QUOTE]
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