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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5711532" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>It's odd. Much of what I see on the forums isn't reflected in real life, but much of what people say they see in real life isn't reflected in what I've experienced outside the Con/Game store experience.</p><p></p><p>For example, none of the people I play OD&D or AD&D with have been in a FLGS, or Game store in almost a decade, many in two decades. NONE. You won't meet them in the gamestores, you won't meet most of them at the CONS. The people who I associate with my AD&D groups and those who are in game stores are really like two different sets of people in two very different sets of hobbies. In some ways it's almost wierd. I'd say there is NO representation from that crowd on EN world or any of the RPG sites (then again, I think about 3/4 of them would be considered old grogs who don't even use the internet unless they have too).</p><p></p><p>Of that bunch, only about a fourth are somewhat regular players...the others will play at a reunion of the occasional meet up for something other than a game and the game just happens to occur. I've actually gotten some of their old books because they use them so little they handed them off...they have other things that occupy their time these days.</p><p></p><p>On the otherhand I have met one or two that play AD&D in game stores...but it isn't often. I stand a better chance of meeting AD&D players and OD&D players at a Wargamers meet up than via the RPG scene these days...oddly enough I think I stand a bigger chance of meeting them at work than any gamestore. I DO meet them occasionally at gamestores.</p><p></p><p>Everyone of the very few AD&D players that I've met at the gamestores have played 3.X at some point, and in fact those that played AD&D that I meet at the gamestores seem to prefer 3.X or Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>I've met some that play Rolemaster, and I found a BIG Rifts fan along with some Rifts players.</p><p></p><p>I have found 3.X players that are hostile to 4e, but only one that ever resorted to violence and that was more over some criminal activity than anything dealing with the game. My experience has seen far more playing 3.X or Pathfinder recently...but even Pathfinder isn't selling in droves at the FLGS's I've frequented. Normally the mainstay of those stores seem to be Magic the Gathering or some other niche they have carved out amongst the players there.</p><p></p><p>I haven't actually found 4e players that are hostile to 3.X or pathfinder players.</p><p></p><p>The conversations I see online aren't like any I see in the stores typically, but in some ways I think they may reflect some people's views much more closely than what they'd express in a public setting. They do tend to be closer to what I see at FLGS's than otherwise though.</p><p></p><p>They are nothing close to representing what I see from those who don't go to the FLGS's or play with those groups of people.</p><p></p><p>On the otherhand I think perhaps those who are online discussing these games take RPGs a lot more seriously than the average person I may play with...just an opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5711532, member: 4348"] It's odd. Much of what I see on the forums isn't reflected in real life, but much of what people say they see in real life isn't reflected in what I've experienced outside the Con/Game store experience. For example, none of the people I play OD&D or AD&D with have been in a FLGS, or Game store in almost a decade, many in two decades. NONE. You won't meet them in the gamestores, you won't meet most of them at the CONS. The people who I associate with my AD&D groups and those who are in game stores are really like two different sets of people in two very different sets of hobbies. In some ways it's almost wierd. I'd say there is NO representation from that crowd on EN world or any of the RPG sites (then again, I think about 3/4 of them would be considered old grogs who don't even use the internet unless they have too). Of that bunch, only about a fourth are somewhat regular players...the others will play at a reunion of the occasional meet up for something other than a game and the game just happens to occur. I've actually gotten some of their old books because they use them so little they handed them off...they have other things that occupy their time these days. On the otherhand I have met one or two that play AD&D in game stores...but it isn't often. I stand a better chance of meeting AD&D players and OD&D players at a Wargamers meet up than via the RPG scene these days...oddly enough I think I stand a bigger chance of meeting them at work than any gamestore. I DO meet them occasionally at gamestores. Everyone of the very few AD&D players that I've met at the gamestores have played 3.X at some point, and in fact those that played AD&D that I meet at the gamestores seem to prefer 3.X or Pathfinder. I've met some that play Rolemaster, and I found a BIG Rifts fan along with some Rifts players. I have found 3.X players that are hostile to 4e, but only one that ever resorted to violence and that was more over some criminal activity than anything dealing with the game. My experience has seen far more playing 3.X or Pathfinder recently...but even Pathfinder isn't selling in droves at the FLGS's I've frequented. Normally the mainstay of those stores seem to be Magic the Gathering or some other niche they have carved out amongst the players there. I haven't actually found 4e players that are hostile to 3.X or pathfinder players. The conversations I see online aren't like any I see in the stores typically, but in some ways I think they may reflect some people's views much more closely than what they'd express in a public setting. They do tend to be closer to what I see at FLGS's than otherwise though. They are nothing close to representing what I see from those who don't go to the FLGS's or play with those groups of people. On the otherhand I think perhaps those who are online discussing these games take RPGs a lot more seriously than the average person I may play with...just an opinion. [/QUOTE]
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