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<blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5718974" data-attributes="member: 54707"><p>Sorry about the delay in replying haakon1. I got called away on assignment. I agree with everything you said and if I stated things in a way as to be misunderstood then I apologize. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It's a sort of parallel subject I know, but in my opinion gaming is generally good for you and can have many benefits for you in real life. I too have a number of military and law enforcement buddies who game or grew up gaming. (Of course I don't want to limit real life adventuring to just law enforcement or the military, many occupations are adventurous. I just used those because they are obvious and easy to understand examples.)</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And you can learn a lot useful in gaming that can be applied to real world situations or to real world problem solving. (I actually first learned to read maps and navigate with a compass, and to draw accurate maps by playing Wargames and RPGs.) I think there is a correlation between gaming and problem solving skills, and even real life "adventuring skills." I've often argued for this. And I'm a firm believer that where the mind goes so will go the rest of the man, eventually. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">My only point is that there is a certain sub-group of gamers who seem to separate out the real world and the gaming world (as if they are at odds with one another) or to stop at the point of mental imagination, and not go on to apply their imaginary capabilities (I'm not using imaginary in the sense of "fictional", but in the sense of, "beginning in the imagination") to other aspects or realms of their life.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">That is the line of demarcation I think between gaming communities and real life. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Actually I think real life can be quite useful for gaming and gaming can be quite useful for real life, and I'm often stumped by those who imagine themselves some great thing (in their minds) but will not apply those same mental or physical or imagined or problem solving (or whatever they possess) capabilities to solving real world problems. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It seems to be a huge waste of potential.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And to be absolutely honest if some of this sub-group of gamers put nearly as much effort, mental energy, imagination, and outright devotion into solving the problems around them as they do to gaming (not that there is anything wrong with gaming, either as training or enjoyment or a spur to the imagination, or all three) then there wouldn't be as many problems around them.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">That's my opinion of where the real line between gaming and the real world exists. And on what I see as a huge waste of real potential.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>However I did not want to imply that all gamers are living in an escapist fantasy world or that gaming does a person no good.</em> Actually I really believe the opposite, <strong>that gaming and the imagination can be very useful tools for the real world</strong>. It builds innovation, flexibility, and problem solving capabilities in the players. Rather than just relying upon magic, or technology, or super-powers, or whatever the mechanic du-jour of the game might be. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And as a matter of fact I not only let my players use their real world skills in-game (if it is appropriate - if we're playing D&D there is no use for computer skills, but there might be for analyzing codes) I encourage it and let the players write it into their character skill sets.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I actively encourage Real World and Gaming Skill-Set Interfacing and practice. I think it's good practice for the players and actually make sit far more enjoyable for them to be able to use real world skill sets in-game.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Anyways, gotta hit the hay. See ya.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack7, post: 5718974, member: 54707"] Sorry about the delay in replying haakon1. I got called away on assignment. I agree with everything you said and if I stated things in a way as to be misunderstood then I apologize. [FONT=Verdana]It's a sort of parallel subject I know, but in my opinion gaming is generally good for you and can have many benefits for you in real life. I too have a number of military and law enforcement buddies who game or grew up gaming. (Of course I don't want to limit real life adventuring to just law enforcement or the military, many occupations are adventurous. I just used those because they are obvious and easy to understand examples.)[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]And you can learn a lot useful in gaming that can be applied to real world situations or to real world problem solving. (I actually first learned to read maps and navigate with a compass, and to draw accurate maps by playing Wargames and RPGs.) I think there is a correlation between gaming and problem solving skills, and even real life "adventuring skills." I've often argued for this. And I'm a firm believer that where the mind goes so will go the rest of the man, eventually. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]My only point is that there is a certain sub-group of gamers who seem to separate out the real world and the gaming world (as if they are at odds with one another) or to stop at the point of mental imagination, and not go on to apply their imaginary capabilities (I'm not using imaginary in the sense of "fictional", but in the sense of, "beginning in the imagination") to other aspects or realms of their life.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]That is the line of demarcation I think between gaming communities and real life. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Actually I think real life can be quite useful for gaming and gaming can be quite useful for real life, and I'm often stumped by those who imagine themselves some great thing (in their minds) but will not apply those same mental or physical or imagined or problem solving (or whatever they possess) capabilities to solving real world problems. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]It seems to be a huge waste of potential.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]And to be absolutely honest if some of this sub-group of gamers put nearly as much effort, mental energy, imagination, and outright devotion into solving the problems around them as they do to gaming (not that there is anything wrong with gaming, either as training or enjoyment or a spur to the imagination, or all three) then there wouldn't be as many problems around them.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]That's my opinion of where the real line between gaming and the real world exists. And on what I see as a huge waste of real potential.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana][I]However I did not want to imply that all gamers are living in an escapist fantasy world or that gaming does a person no good.[/I] Actually I really believe the opposite, [B]that gaming and the imagination can be very useful tools for the real world[/B]. It builds innovation, flexibility, and problem solving capabilities in the players. Rather than just relying upon magic, or technology, or super-powers, or whatever the mechanic du-jour of the game might be. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]And as a matter of fact I not only let my players use their real world skills in-game (if it is appropriate - if we're playing D&D there is no use for computer skills, but there might be for analyzing codes) I encourage it and let the players write it into their character skill sets.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]I actively encourage Real World and Gaming Skill-Set Interfacing and practice. I think it's good practice for the players and actually make sit far more enjoyable for them to be able to use real world skill sets in-game.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Anyways, gotta hit the hay. See ya.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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