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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Benji" data-source="post: 7679651" data-attributes="member: 6793743">About this, I don't disagree. It perhaps explains why we haven't seen so much of it. You also have to have a very specific type of player to enjoy a situation where, for example, you have to let a village be wiped out to save a nation. My actual point (probably lost in bad examples) was that  I think that by trying to avoid that 'rabid geek' sterotype in order to cater to a middle ground normal and finally bask in the fact things we liked and suffered for liking are popular, we may have begun to lose the things that made them good in the first place. I've had a great  laugh sat around a D&D table and not taken it seriously. But I've also been moved by stuff at it. That deeper investment in geek culture is one that I hope everyone gets the chance to experience. They won't get it from watching a D&D movie. Same as most people won't understand what it's like to be a fan of comics by watching the Avengers. I'll be honest, I'm not entirely sure what I'm grasping at here. It's difficult to put into words and I realise that in doing so I'm going to start coming across as some kind of geek bigot saying people can't all be fans or true fans and then I'm drawing lines in the sand and it's all a little dodgey. I wrote a load more stuff with a massive aside about the x-men (Comics Vs Film generated fans and experiences) but when I read it back it came across as kind of sad and a little snobby. But I suppose my final point is that what happens to D&D in future is kind of our responsibility as not only it's players but also it's advocates. What games we play and what tack the movie takes will be the representation of our hobby for a long time to come. Do we want to be seen as 'lighthearted throwaway fun?' is that okay? Is it enough? or should we be pushing to say 'The time of the geek is here, now lets show them how to take it to another level?'. I don't have the answers. I know which side of the fence I'm on and from reading my posts it should be pretty clear. But I'm one dude and my response is only as valid as the next gamer.</blockquote>

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