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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mordax" data-source="post: 178386" data-attributes="member: 4430">Hrm...this thread is too cool to pass up posting on. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />My group switched from GURPS to 3E when the PHB came out, and we've been loathe to go back.It really has nothing to do with the genius of D&D, so much as the money...*drumroll*Money spent on *playtesting*.D&D has immense playtesting resources, that are unmatched by any other company.  This is why 3E works, IMO.  The same ideas, hatched by a smaller company, never would've grown into something useful.  (This is why GURPS requires so much patching - they just can't afford to iron it out properly.)So I s'pose I'm in the "first guy corners the market" camp, but for a different reason than most.If D&D had been a scifi game that focused on cool space battles with very gradual progress, instead of levels and dungeons, I think that's what we'd be discussing here, today.As for Vampire not being brought up:I was actually thinking about the White Wolf stuff.  As of 3E, it's very good at simulating heroic action.  I've been tempted to use it for something - anything but their setting - for some time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />One thing I like about their system, and sorta wish D&D or GURPS did, is that being wounded actually causes lingering skill penalties...As for ablative hp:Well, I'll side in favor of ablative hp as a good mechanic, just for the sake of argument.  Here's the train of thought:In GURPS, if I have a very skilled swordsman - good enough for a Parry 15, say - I can block any sort of blow with almost perfect success.  If a giant swings a log at my head, and I'm allowed a Parry at all, I'll stop that log dead.  There isn't even an official mechanic for reducing my chance of success on the basis of a superhuman attack.  (This matters in, like, Supers games - a normal strength martial artist can parry Superdude all day long.)In the same situation, in D&D (I have a high level fighter with decent AC and a ton of hp), the giant is likely to hit and cause a couple dozen points of damage...representing the exact same active defense, and the fact that parrying a log is going to hurt, no matter how agile you are.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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