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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wraith Form" data-source="post: 2101624" data-attributes="member: 10789">I fully understand that mechanics make not the sum total of the game...but the rules engine plays a factor in the grand scheme.As one who started a C&C vs ___(insert game here)___ thread, all I can say is that sometimes different ghosts can reside in the same machine. Let's take the Blue Rose machine, but yank out it's default ghost.I don't give a tinker's damn about 'romantic fantasy,' although the Blue Rose description of being "less about fighting and more about interaction" strongly appeals to me. I would use the rules engine to accomplish the types of games I like (which are going to be more about political intrigue/conspiracy/horror and less about fighting). If I can speed up combat to the point where it's 'cinematic,' and have streamlined rules and less questions, that's great--that's what I'm looking for. I like simple, I like social, and I like a unified set of rules.If C&C offers the same, but I don't have to spend my $$ on a 'romantic fantasy' setting included with the book, then C&C's the game I'm looking for. That's what I'm trying to determine without spending $$ on both sets of books, and thus the point of my C&C vs. Blue Rose thread.And, as Henry said, having a single handbook with a single rules engine that my players buy, where I just say across the board "this is it" without modding or houseruling, is a bonus.If you consider that to be "missing the point," that's cool....and that's your opinion. I want a tool that works for the type of craftsmanship that I'm practicing--that'd be storytelling & refereeing, to make it clear--and the only way I can get that tool (without buying two books) is to ask questions about both, comparing & contrasting them, then buying the one that fits best.  (P.S. I felt the tone of your initial post in this thread was haughty, and it puzzles me why you'd take an 'superior' stance for something that doesn't effect you in any way. You have an obvious preference for C&C, and that's fine.  Who cares if we want to compare different rules engines to C&C? If you don't want to, that's great--nobody's forcing you to, nor are we forcing you to read our threads. I'm not mad, I'm just put off by your tone.)</blockquote>

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