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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DoctorEvil" data-source="post: 1746086" data-attributes="member: 5364">Gort, you're talking about me! I'm a "Gimmick" character guy too!I've had a long string of "gimmicks" from 1E to 3E.....* The Elven Eagle Rider (2E Fighter using a kit)* The Spiked Chain Expert (3E Fighter)* The Combat Mage (1E Dual Classed Fighter/Wizard)* The Mobile Rogue/Fighter (3E Fighter/Rogue with Boots of Springing/Striding and the feats to back it up)* The Orc-Hating Ranger (1E Ranger)* The All Powerful Bard (1E Dual Classed Bard)The "Gimmick" player isn't just interesting in being powerful.....He's interested in being UNIQUELY powerful. The problem with the "Gimmick" player is once he tries out a "Gimmick" he gets bored and is ready to move on to the next gimmick. I've "retired" more characters voluntarily than I can count. This is a very, very hard cycle to break (I'm still not totally out of it). But you may want to address it with the player and let him know how you feel. Some ideas....* Have him make a Unique character who is not powerful. By unique I mean try a class/race combo that is out of the ordinary (Half-Orc Paladin, Dwarf Sorcerer, etc....). I did this with a Gnome Druid/Sorcerer named Roondar. Terribly average to below average stats and Druid/Sorcerer is not a very effective combination when you start out at 2nd level. But I can honestly say I had a blast with this character by roleplaying his weaknesses. * Try and get him to make a standard character (Human Fighter, Elf Wizard, etc...) with a unique background. If you do this and he's interested, then it's up to the DM to take this background and use it as a hook in adventures. Being an ordinary type of character who just happens to have some dark and terrible secret in his past can be fun, especially when adventures start to revolve around you. * Try creating pre-made characters for your party and have them randomly choose. I did this for one campaign as a DM and one as a player and both times turned out to be fun (although this method does have some drawbacks).</blockquote>

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