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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 8871742" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>No it's not. It is just as valid to be seen as a case of a DM being an ass by making an assumption and punishing a player for it. Did the DM is session zero spend 10 hours detailing exactly everything that they players must do in each and every case? Did they write that down like they are demanding the players do? It is the DM once again ASSUMING a single statement "if it's not on your character sheet, then you don't have it" CYA for the DM but not for the Players. Simple BAd FAith on part of such a DM.</p><p></p><p>I've played with DMs who act like you propose. Whether intended it or not, those DMs make me feel like I'm am being punished. That is real. The behavior you are advocating does in fact make some players feel like they are being punished. Therefore, for all effective purposes, this type of DM behavior is punishment to some players.</p><p></p><p>Or it is a DM have a bad faith assumption about a player. Once again it is a DM making assumptions, assuming in the height of their ego that they are correct and the players are wrong. It is adversarial in it's nature.</p><p></p><p>I feel shame in a lot of things. Not this. Perhaps I should suggest you should ...? But I won't. And I don't think that. And, personal attacks are against board rules.</p><p></p><p>Yes it is. Even if you don't think it is. I do. </p><p>My opinion is just as valid as your opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 8871742, member: 6804070"] No it's not. It is just as valid to be seen as a case of a DM being an ass by making an assumption and punishing a player for it. Did the DM is session zero spend 10 hours detailing exactly everything that they players must do in each and every case? Did they write that down like they are demanding the players do? It is the DM once again ASSUMING a single statement "if it's not on your character sheet, then you don't have it" CYA for the DM but not for the Players. Simple BAd FAith on part of such a DM. I've played with DMs who act like you propose. Whether intended it or not, those DMs make me feel like I'm am being punished. That is real. The behavior you are advocating does in fact make some players feel like they are being punished. Therefore, for all effective purposes, this type of DM behavior is punishment to some players. Or it is a DM have a bad faith assumption about a player. Once again it is a DM making assumptions, assuming in the height of their ego that they are correct and the players are wrong. It is adversarial in it's nature. I feel shame in a lot of things. Not this. Perhaps I should suggest you should ...? But I won't. And I don't think that. And, personal attacks are against board rules. Yes it is. Even if you don't think it is. I do. My opinion is just as valid as your opinion. [/QUOTE]
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