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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8877634" data-attributes="member: 23751">The discussion you stepped into there was whether or not the spell is cast uniformly each time the caster casts it.  Make it a forceful gesture and it will be the same exact gesture taking the same amount of time to perform each time the caster casts it.  Same if it's some other somatic method.  There will be no variation, because the spell is precise in what it requires. If you break it up due to casting your own counterspell in the middle of your original casting, you are no longer casting the original spell precisely as required.  The game is silent on whether or not this will ruin the spell, but a DM is well within his rights to make the reasonable ruling that it does ruin it.If you do both gestures simultaneously, they will mess up the original spell which requires a precise somatic that includes nothing else.  The original spell isn't going to know the difference between you screwing up the gesture by using the other hand or you casting a spell with the other hand.  Either way what you are doing is not the precise somatic of the original spell.I think that would be a reasonable ruling as well.  An arcana check to keep the spells separate seems reasonable.  Mess that up and both spells are wasted as the somatic components for each will mess up the other. Either of those two reasonable ways a DM chooses to rule it would not make me unhappy.</blockquote>