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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8660979" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Whatever example you may be referring to seem to have become badly mangled over many posts. This isn't how Apocalypse World or most PbtA or similar games work. What's more, in many such games, the stakes are explicitly declared before a roll is made. This may be accomplished by a Soft Move to establish the threat, and then a subsequent Hard Move following up on it (Apocalypse World), or consequences may be explicitly stated as part of establishing the action roll (Blades in the Dark). You'll always know what's at stake before you make a roll in these games. The only way that an entire group of PCs would collectively be on the line for one roll is if they were performing a group action, or one PC was performing an action where they all assisted, or otherwise established that they were at risk based on the outcome of the roll. This example where one person draws a gun and then everyone gets captured as a result simply does not happen in these games. Are you talking about Apocalypse World here? You don't directly cite any specific games, so it's hard to tell what game you're talking about.</blockquote>