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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 8662893" data-attributes="member: 6684958">Wow, does my game get a lot of turn over...that is players join, freak out, and then run away.&nbsp; So once upon a time I posted a classic &quot;save the kingdom from a dragon&quot; adventure, with my usual warnings &quot;Unfair Unbalanced Anything Rolls Hard Fun Killer DM&quot;.&nbsp; There is a pool of players desperate to play, so it's no problem getting five.&nbsp; It does not take too long for players to leave.&nbsp; And just as fast for a new player to join.&nbsp; Each player brings new ideas, outlooks, experiences, and so forth.&nbsp; BUT it's also important what the leaving players teach the players that stay.The players start with the idea that they are too weak to just attack the dragon, and figure they need help.&nbsp; So Bob had the idea to 'make an army' out of the kingdoms peasants, his character was killed by a local sheriff for being a nusince.&nbsp; Bob complains his character dies and quits.&nbsp; New player Joe picked up on that idea using wit and charm to get a peasant mob...that was killed by the dragon in one round.&nbsp; Next Joe looks for epic level knights that are just sitting around and would be willing to be under his command....he fails to find any.&nbsp;&nbsp; Joe quits as the &quot;GM never makes any of his plans work&quot;.&nbsp; Sally joins and is told about the silly &quot;lets somehow get an army to kill the dragon for us&quot; idea and suggests making an undead army.&nbsp; Eric leaves here as it's &quot;taking too long to kill the dragon&quot;.&nbsp; Zoe joins, is told the new plan, and she points out that an army of weak undead will be killed in a round just like the peasants.&nbsp; Sally leaves as now no one wants to do her undead army idea.&nbsp; Kevin joins, and is told the story so far.....he asks why have they just not attacked the dragon yet?&nbsp; The group complains about being too weak.&nbsp; Tony wants to go on another adventure to get more powerful, but everyone else wants to finish the dragon one first.&nbsp; Tony leaves.&nbsp; Hank joins, and suggests tricking the dragon into a trap.&nbsp; But for bait they will need lots of treasure, and the characters are poor.&nbsp; Side adventure here where the group takes several games to steal all the local barons treasure.&nbsp; Kim joins during this.&nbsp; Eventually they get into the barons vault to find....not much treasure.&nbsp; Hank leaves.&nbsp; Kevin gets that a baron does not have millions of gold coins sitting in a room....and suggests going after a lost sunken ship of gold.&nbsp; No one else wants too.&nbsp; And this goes on for a long time&nbsp; Players, even old ones, come and go...Eventually Zoe and Kevin get the idea of finding a good dragon, doing it a favor, in return for fighting their dragon.&nbsp; This works, but Edsel has everyone ready with Back-up Plan A: &quot;kill the wounded red dragon&quot;.&nbsp; Sure enough the red dragon wins the dragon fight....and the group pounds on the wounded red dragon.&nbsp; Characters die....but so does the dragon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 8662893, member: 6684958"] Wow, does my game get a lot of turn over...that is players join, freak out, and then run away. So once upon a time I posted a classic "save the kingdom from a dragon" adventure, with my usual warnings "Unfair Unbalanced Anything Rolls Hard Fun Killer DM". There is a pool of players desperate to play, so it's no problem getting five. It does not take too long for players to leave. And just as fast for a new player to join. Each player brings new ideas, outlooks, experiences, and so forth. BUT it's also important what the leaving players teach the players that stay. The players start with the idea that they are too weak to just attack the dragon, and figure they need help. So Bob had the idea to 'make an army' out of the kingdoms peasants, his character was killed by a local sheriff for being a nusince. Bob complains his character dies and quits. New player Joe picked up on that idea using wit and charm to get a peasant mob...that was killed by the dragon in one round. Next Joe looks for epic level knights that are just sitting around and would be willing to be under his command....he fails to find any. Joe quits as the "GM never makes any of his plans work". Sally joins and is told about the silly "lets somehow get an army to kill the dragon for us" idea and suggests making an undead army. Eric leaves here as it's "taking too long to kill the dragon". Zoe joins, is told the new plan, and she points out that an army of weak undead will be killed in a round just like the peasants. Sally leaves as now no one wants to do her undead army idea. Kevin joins, and is told the story so far.....he asks why have they just not attacked the dragon yet? The group complains about being too weak. Tony wants to go on another adventure to get more powerful, but everyone else wants to finish the dragon one first. Tony leaves. Hank joins, and suggests tricking the dragon into a trap. But for bait they will need lots of treasure, and the characters are poor. Side adventure here where the group takes several games to steal all the local barons treasure. Kim joins during this. Eventually they get into the barons vault to find....not much treasure. Hank leaves. Kevin gets that a baron does not have millions of gold coins sitting in a room....and suggests going after a lost sunken ship of gold. No one else wants too. [B]And this goes on for a long time[/B] Players, even old ones, come and go... Eventually Zoe and Kevin get the idea of finding a good dragon, doing it a favor, in return for fighting their dragon. This works, but Edsel has everyone ready with Back-up Plan A: "kill the wounded red dragon". Sure enough the red dragon wins the dragon fight....and the group pounds on the wounded red dragon. Characters die....but so does the dragon. [/QUOTE]

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