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<blockquote data-quote="Rils" data-source="post: 7740829" data-attributes="member: 78768">Charisma is more correctly equated to &quot;force of personality&quot;, a measure of your sense of self. The ability to &quot;fill the room&quot; simply by being there. That might be physical attractiveness, cunning wit, or an overbearing presence.&nbsp; It's the same reason D&amp;D tieflings get Cha boosts - they know who they are and what they want and how to get it, regardless of what it does to other people.&nbsp; That's why classes like warlocks use it for their spell-casting stat - you better be danged full of self-confidence to make those pacts and wield those powers, knowing the risks. &nbsp;We all know people we'd call charismatic because tons of people like them - why?&nbsp; It is their strong sense of self-confidence that pulls us in.&nbsp; But many unlikable people can equally be called charismatic - I know it's only page 2, but I'll go ahead and invoke Godwin's law for an example.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because as humans, we are drawn to people with a strong force of personality: that is, charisma.When viewed less as an arbitrary measure of attractiveness, and more as measure of your self-confidence and self-awareness, Cha bumps to Golarion goblins make a bit more sense.... still doesn't mean I'll allow them at my table...&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rils, post: 7740829, member: 78768"] Charisma is more correctly equated to "force of personality", a measure of your sense of self. The ability to "fill the room" simply by being there. That might be physical attractiveness, cunning wit, or an overbearing presence. It's the same reason D&D tieflings get Cha boosts - they know who they are and what they want and how to get it, regardless of what it does to other people. That's why classes like warlocks use it for their spell-casting stat - you better be danged full of self-confidence to make those pacts and wield those powers, knowing the risks. We all know people we'd call charismatic because tons of people like them - why? It is their strong sense of self-confidence that pulls us in. But many unlikable people can equally be called charismatic - I know it's only page 2, but I'll go ahead and invoke Godwin's law for an example. :) Why? Because as humans, we are drawn to people with a strong force of personality: that is, charisma. When viewed less as an arbitrary measure of attractiveness, and more as measure of your self-confidence and self-awareness, Cha bumps to Golarion goblins make a bit more sense. ... still doesn't mean I'll allow them at my table... :) [/QUOTE]

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