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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brian Yarbrough" data-source="post: 7741040" data-attributes="member: 6947238"><p>i have no problem with goblins as PCs, goblins are great, that being said, i do have a problem with completely and mathematically changing what it means to be goblin. goblins, being small spindly creatures, have always taken a -2 STR. makes perfect sense. their annoying personalities have always given them a -2 to charisma, and being the thieves and scavengers they are a +4 dex. now if PF2.0 didnt want to give a huge +4 to dex that would be one thing, but to completely ignore their penalty to STR while going from a penalty to a BONUS on charisma is laughably BAD! i strongly suggest a -2 STR, -2 CHR, +2 DEX and let the player use the floating +2 bonus wherever they choose, INCLUDING stacking it onto DEX ( keeping with tradition) or they can use it to minimize a penalty ( as htis would halep players put goblins into classes they might not suited to otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>