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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7741897" data-attributes="member: 6779196">They might tie with Halflings, who are likely to get +2 Dex and Cha and -2 Str, and Gnomes who are likely to get +2 Con and Cha and -2 Str.Hmm... That would mean all of the Small races get +2 Cha as well, which is... Weird...Yeah, but like... I don't really care how strong chimps are compared to humans. Goblins aren't chimps. They're a made-up fantasy species and I have no problem accepting that they are exceptionally strong for their size. In fact, as a traditionally monstrous race, I think it's rather appropriate that they be deceptively strong in spite of their stature. And like... It's just 2 points. It's the difference between -1 and +0. Maybe if they were getting +2 to strength I'd find it hard to swallow, but having this 4-foot-tall monster be about as strong as a 6-foot-tall human doesn't seem all that outlandish to me.Now that I can agree with. Goblins by all rights should have pretty low base ability scores, and forcing them into the +2 physical, +2 social, -2 any one and floating +2 ends up being awkward any way you slice it. But whatever, I'm willing to grant that the Goblins who become adventurers are just better than most Goblins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7741897, member: 6779196"] They might tie with Halflings, who are likely to get +2 Dex and Cha and -2 Str, and Gnomes who are likely to get +2 Con and Cha and -2 Str. Hmm... That would mean all of the Small races get +2 Cha as well, which is... Weird... Yeah, but like... I don't really [I]care[/I] how strong chimps are compared to humans. Goblins aren't chimps. They're a made-up fantasy species and I have no problem accepting that they are exceptionally strong for their size. In fact, as a traditionally monstrous race, I think it's rather appropriate that they be deceptively strong in spite of their stature. And like... It's just 2 points. It's the difference between -1 and +0. Maybe if they were getting +2 to strength I'd find it hard to swallow, but having this 4-foot-tall monster be about as strong as a 6-foot-tall human doesn't seem all that outlandish to me. Now that I can agree with. Goblins by all rights should have pretty low base ability scores, and forcing them into the +2 physical, +2 social, -2 any one and floating +2 ends up being awkward any way you slice it. But whatever, I'm willing to grant that the Goblins who become adventurers are just better than most Goblins. [/QUOTE]

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