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<blockquote data-quote="Keenath" data-source="post: 4271885" data-attributes="member: 59792">Of course, being at range makes AC a lot less important than for a melee fighter...Nnnno, it's still +1 worse, because if you have 26 dex, you can still only apply +6 of it to your AC due to the max dex ceiling that you hit back at Dex 22.&nbsp; You'd need padded armor to do that.Full plate is +1 better than any of the other armors except Padded, which requires a ridiculously high dex.&nbsp; That is to say, if you have the armor's maximum dex bonus, you always have +8 armor bonus, except Full Plate, which is +9.If you ignore full plate (and a single +1 is rarely worth it in 3e), there's no reason to wear heavy armor when you have Dex 16; a breastplate gives you as good an AC as anything else.But that aside, the problem with your argument is that real life archers don't wear heavy armor.&nbsp; Like ever.&nbsp; Normally bowmen would be wearing something like scale or chain, if that.&nbsp; So, where's this archetype of a heavily armored archer?&nbsp; Who's the example?&nbsp; What novel did you see that guy in -- even a D&amp;D novel?&nbsp; What movie features Robin Hood and William Tell walking around in shining plate?Sorry.&nbsp; I can't mourn the loss of an archetype that doesn't exist except as a mechanical artifact.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Keenath, post: 4271885, member: 59792"] Of course, being at range makes AC a lot less important than for a melee fighter... Nnnno, it's still +1 worse, because if you have 26 dex, you can still only apply +6 of it to your AC due to the max dex ceiling that you hit back at Dex 22. You'd need padded armor to do that. Full plate is +1 better than any of the other armors except Padded, which requires a ridiculously high dex. That is to say, if you have the armor's maximum dex bonus, you always have +8 armor bonus, except Full Plate, which is +9. If you ignore full plate (and a single +1 is rarely worth it in 3e), there's no reason to wear heavy armor when you have Dex 16; a breastplate gives you as good an AC as anything else. But that aside, the problem with your argument is that real life archers don't wear heavy armor. Like ever. Normally bowmen would be wearing something like scale or chain, if that. So, where's this archetype of a heavily armored archer? Who's the example? What novel did you see that guy in -- even a D&D novel? What movie features Robin Hood and William Tell walking around in shining plate? Sorry. I can't mourn the loss of an archetype that doesn't exist except as a mechanical artifact. [/QUOTE]

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