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<blockquote data-quote="the_move" data-source="post: 6865795" data-attributes="member: 6804624"><p>Afaik Zoltar does not belong to the WotC crew, yet his answers are taken into account even by them.</p><p></p><p>About your comment regarding character progressions and grappling, I assume most characters need some form of progression time. The barbarian might be great for grappling out of the box because of his rage, true. But do not forget some classes really have to climb some lvls first before they reach a certain potential, like the Eldritch Knight.</p><p></p><p>I am currently playing a goliath Eldritch Knight lvl 5, who is not really suited for grappling yet. He does well however as a sword and board fighter. I picked the Shield Master feat at lvl 4 and will soon gain Tavern Brawler at lvl 6. I will multiclass into one lvl of rogue at lvl 7 to acquire expertise in Athletics and Perception and by lvl 9 I will fetch War Caster along the Enlarge and Blur spells. While I will definately not get advantage on strength checks as often as a barbarian with his rages (not until lvl 14, when my combined total of lvl 2 and 3 spellslots will match his amount of rages per day), my Eldritch Knight might be a formidable grappler on occasions as well as still being able to sword and board against those enemies, which can't be proned or grappled at all, or when grappling would be an unadvisable tactic.</p><p></p><p>Also, Action Surge, Stone's Endurance and Second Wind once per rest saved his life (and with it his companion's) quite numerous times. The Shield Master's effect on dex saves already had it's uses, not to mention the countless bonus action attempts shoving/proning monsters. We also have a bear totem barbarian in our party. Damage wise he seem to outclass me at first glance, but in order to gain advantage by himself he needs to be reckless. I needn't take that risk and with Shield Master profiting heavily from an expertised athletics skill as well things can only get better. Even with his resist all but psychic feat his damage mitigation does not compare to mine yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the_move, post: 6865795, member: 6804624"] Afaik Zoltar does not belong to the WotC crew, yet his answers are taken into account even by them. About your comment regarding character progressions and grappling, I assume most characters need some form of progression time. The barbarian might be great for grappling out of the box because of his rage, true. But do not forget some classes really have to climb some lvls first before they reach a certain potential, like the Eldritch Knight. I am currently playing a goliath Eldritch Knight lvl 5, who is not really suited for grappling yet. He does well however as a sword and board fighter. I picked the Shield Master feat at lvl 4 and will soon gain Tavern Brawler at lvl 6. I will multiclass into one lvl of rogue at lvl 7 to acquire expertise in Athletics and Perception and by lvl 9 I will fetch War Caster along the Enlarge and Blur spells. While I will definately not get advantage on strength checks as often as a barbarian with his rages (not until lvl 14, when my combined total of lvl 2 and 3 spellslots will match his amount of rages per day), my Eldritch Knight might be a formidable grappler on occasions as well as still being able to sword and board against those enemies, which can't be proned or grappled at all, or when grappling would be an unadvisable tactic. Also, Action Surge, Stone's Endurance and Second Wind once per rest saved his life (and with it his companion's) quite numerous times. The Shield Master's effect on dex saves already had it's uses, not to mention the countless bonus action attempts shoving/proning monsters. We also have a bear totem barbarian in our party. Damage wise he seem to outclass me at first glance, but in order to gain advantage by himself he needs to be reckless. I needn't take that risk and with Shield Master profiting heavily from an expertised athletics skill as well things can only get better. Even with his resist all but psychic feat his damage mitigation does not compare to mine yet. [/QUOTE]
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