The Grease spell...

[RigaMortus]

A grease spell covers a solid surface with a layer of slippery grease. Any creature in the area when the spell is cast must make a successful Reflex save or fall. This save is repeated on your turn each round that the creature remains within the area. A creature can walk within or through the area of grease at half normal speed with a DC 10 Balance check. Failure means it can't move that round (and must then make a Reflex save or fall), while failure by 5 or more means it falls (see the Balance skill for details).

If a creature does not walk within or through the Greased area (in other words, they are standing in the Greased area, but remain in their 5' square), do they have to make the Balance check?

 

[Joshua Randall]

Failure means it can't move that round (and must then make a Reflex save or fall)

I would argue that this phrase is the key. If you don't move -- whether because you failed your Balance check by less than 5 or voluntarily -- you must make a Ref save or fall prone.

 

[RigaMortus]

I would argue that this phrase is the key. If you don't move -- whether because you failed your Balance check by less than 5 or voluntarily -- you must make a Ref save or fall prone.

I think it works like this:

On my turn I cast Grease. Anyone in the area makes a Reflex save or falls.

On their turn, they can move-equiv to get up from prone (assuming the fell) and/or move. If they move, they need to make a Balance check or fall (again). If they don't move, then they don't need to make a Balance check, but that means they will still be in the Greased area, so on my turn, they will have to make a Reflex save again or fall (again).

 

[Kealios]

I think it works like this:

On my turn I cast Grease. Anyone in the area makes a Reflex save or falls.

On their turn, they can move-equiv to get up from prone (assuming the fell) and/or move. If they move, they need to make a Balance check or fall (again). If they don't move, then they don't need to make a Balance check, but that means they will still be in the Greased area, so on my turn, they will have to make a Reflex save again or fall (again).

Ona side note, have you had PC's who wanted to light the grease on fire? The spellweaver that cast this on a slope he was defending all but wiped out the PC's because the balance check (DC17) was so high...they wanted to light it on fire and obscure line of sight down the narrow sloping hallway that the grease protected...

 

[apsuman]

Since the spell makes no mention of the grease being flamable, I would rule, if you ask me, that the stuff is not flammable.

 

[Scion]

Definately not flameable.

Although it is magically created grease, you can test it out with a few common types.

Take some crisco and spread it out on the ground, try to light it on fire.

You can do the same with vegetable oil.

Good luck

 

[Darklone]

Flames or not: Usually grease does not burn that easily... if you want rules for flamable grease, I'd suggest to take a look at the Glue spell in Rituals&Relics I which is essentially a variant grease spell but has rules about igniting the grease.

 

[buchw001]

I think it works like this:

On my turn I cast Grease. Anyone in the area makes a Reflex save or falls.

On their turn, they can move-equiv to get up from prone (assuming the fell) and/or move. If they move, they need to make a Balance check or fall (again). If they don't move, then they don't need to make a Balance check, but that means they will still be in the Greased area, so on my turn, they will have to make a Reflex save again or fall (again).

I think this has got it perfect. I also posted two questions about the grease saving throws and this agrees...

Oh yeah, I also vote for not flammable

 

[dbm]

My question on this spell would be, once the target is prone, do they have to stand or can they just, say, cast a spell lying on the floor?

Dan

 

[Darklone]

Well, you can always cast spells while prone. It's a good idea against trip experts.