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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1059636" data-attributes="member: 3146">What the heck, this is fun. I'll take the duellist as well.William Cromwell male human Rog 1; CR: 1; Medium-size humanoid (human); HD: 1d6+2; hp: 8; Init: +3; Spd: 30 ft; AC: 15 ( touch 13, flat-footed 12); BAB +0; Grap +1; Atk: +1 melee (1d6+1/18-20x2 rapier) or +3 ranged (1d4+1 /19-20 x2/10 ft., dagger); Face/reach: 5’/5’; SQ: Trapfinding, Sneak Attack +1d6 AL: Neutral Good; SV Fort: +2, Ref: +5, Will: -1; Str: 13 Dex: 16, Con: 14, Int: 10, Wis: 8, Cha: 12. Height: 5’9”; Weight: 145 lbs.Skills and Feats: Bluff +5(4r), Diplomacy +5(4r),  Disable Device +4(4r), Jump +5(4r), Open Lock +7(4r), Perform (witty reparte) +4(4r), Search +4(4r), Sense Motive +3(4r), Tumble +7(4r); Dodge, Mobility.Possessions: Leather Armor, rapier, signet ring, 3 daggers, theives' tools, backpack, waterskin, 2 days' rations, 1 pp, 15gp, 30 sp, 20 cp.William Cromwell male human Rog 2/Ftr 1; CR: 3; Medium-size humanoid (human); HD: 2d6+1d10+6; hp: 22; Init: +3; Spd: 30 ft; AC: 19 ( touch 13, flat-footed 16); BAB +2; Grap +3; Atk: +7 melee (1d6+1/18-20x2 rapier) or +5 ranged (1d4+1 /19-20 x2/10 ft., dagger); Face/reach: 5’/5’; SQ: Evasion, Trapfinding, Sneak Attack +1d6 AL: Neutral Good; SV Fort: +5, Ref: +7, Will: +0; Str: 13 Dex: 16, Con: 14, Int: 10, Wis: 8, Cha: 12. Height: 5’9”; Weight: 145 lbs.Skills and Feats: Bluff +6(5r), Climb +3(2r), Diplomacy +9(4r), Disguise +2 (1r),  Disable Device +9(7r), Jump +6(5r), Open Lock +11(6r), Perform (witty reparte) +4(4r), Search +6 (6r), Sense Motive +4 (5r), Tumble +10 (5r); Dodge, Mobility, Weapon finesse, Weapon focus: Rapier.Possessions: +1 cloak of resistance, Mithral Chain shirt, masterwork buckler, masterwork rapier, signet ring, dagger, alchemical silver dagger, 2 potions CLW, oil of bless weapon, cold iron dagger, masterwork theives' tools, backpack, waterskin, Disguise Kit, 2 days' rations, 1 pp, 15gp, 30 sp, 20 cp.William Cromwell male human Rog 4/Ftr 2; CR: 6; Medium-size humanoid (human); HD: 4d6+2d10+12; hp: 42; Init: +3; Spd: 30 ft; AC: 19 ( touch 13, flat-footed 16); BAB +5; Grap +6; Atk: +10 melee (1d6+2/18-20x2 rapier) or +9 ranged (1d4+1 /19-20 x2/10 ft., dagger); Face/reach: 5’/5’; SQ: Evasion, Trap Sense +1, Uncanny Dodge I, Trapfinding, Sneak Attack +2d6 AL: Neutral Good; SV Fort: +7, Ref: +8, Will: +1; Str: 13 Dex: 16, Con: 14, Int: 11 (13), Wis: 8, Cha: 12. Height: 5’9”; Weight: 145 lbs.Skills and Feats: Bluff +10 (9r), Climb +6 (5r), Diplomacy +10 (5r), Disguise +5(4r),  Disable Device +11(9r), Jump +6(5r), Open Lock +11(6r), Perform (witty reparte) +4(4r), Search +9 (9r), Sense Motive +6(7r), Tumble +14(9r); Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Weapon finesse, Weapon focus: Rapier.Possessions: +2 headband of intellect, +1 cloak of resistance, Mithral Chain shirt, masterwork buckler, +1 adamantium rapier, signet ring, masterwork dagger, masterwork alchemical silver dagger, 2 potions CLW, oil of bless weapon, masterwork cold iron dagger, masterwork thieves' tools, backpack, waterskin, Disguise Kit, 2 days' rations, 1 pp, 15gp, 30 sp, 20 cp.William Cromwell male human Rog 4/Ftr 4/Duellist 1; CR: 9; Medium-size humanoid (human); HD: 4d6+5d10+18; hp: 66; Init: +4; Spd: 30 ft; AC: 24 ( touch 15, flat-footed 19); BAB +8; Grap +10; Atk: +14/+9 melee (1d6+3/15-20x2 rapier) or +12 ranged (1d4+2 /19-20 x2/10 ft., dagger); Face/reach: 5’/5’; SQ: Canny Defense, Evasion, Trap Sense +1, Uncanny Dodge I, Trapfinding, Sneak Attack +2d6 AL: Neutral Good; SV Fort: +9, Ref: +13, Will: +5; Str: 14 Dex: 16 (18), Con: 14, Int: 11(13), Wis: 8, Cha: 12. Height: 5’9”; Weight: 145 lbs.Skills and Feats: Bluff +10(9r), Climb +10(8r), Diplomacy +10(5r), Disguise +5(4r),  Disable Device +12(9r), Jump +10(8r), Open Lock +12(6r), Perform (witty reparte) +6(5r), Search +9(9r), Sense Motive +8(9r), Tumble +18(12r); Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Weapon finesse, Weapon focus: Rapier, Weapon Specialization: Rapier, Iron Will.Possessions: +2 gloves of dexterity, +1 ring of protection, +2 headband of intellect, +2 cloak of resistance, +2 Mithral Chain shirt, +1 buckler, +1 keen adamantium rapier, signet ring, masterwork dagger, masterwork alchemical silver dagger, 2 potions CLW, potion of CSW, oil of bless weapon, masterwork cold iron dagger, masterwork thieves' tools, backpack, waterskin, Disguise Kit, 2 days' rations, 1 pp, 15gp, 30 sp, 20 cpUnfortunately this character doesn't really take advantage of the duellist's abilities. With the given stats (or with any stats at all--the given stats merely emphasize the problem), a character will be hard pressed to be competent in melee and have a good int (and a multiclass wizard who did would probably be better served by either Eldritch Knight or Arcane Trickster).  And even if the character somehow managed an 18 int, he'd still be much better off using a mithral chain shirt and buckler until he reached quite high levels. The only abilities that really benefit him are Improved Reaction, Precise Strike, Acrobatic Charge, Elaborate Parry, and Deflect Arrows--none of which are gained until 2nd level--and the ability to gain decent skill points with a decent skill list in a +1 BAB/lvl, d10 HD class.</blockquote>

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