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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 6249855" data-attributes="member: 10784">People seem to forget that this site was founded when 3E was in the pipeline and coming out soon.  When 3E first came out, it suffered from all sorts of bashing on here, and the other internet forums out there.  (Anybody remember WebRPG?  I found a great gaming group in the 90s through there... RPG.net's been around for years, too)People said 3E was dumbed down/written for 5th graders, it was too complex, it was too easy, it had no heart/soul, the art sucked, it was too overpowered/munchkiny, made too many changes, required too much magic, the CR system didn't work, trying too hard to appeal to women/minorities, etc, etc, etc.  From my experience, love/unification of 3E and 3.5E was certainly NOT universal.  And, a few years back, I was the EN-worlder in the thread about who had the most gamers within 100 miles of their zip code (I was within 100 miles of Boston & NYC), so it's not like I was living in Antarctica...  Heck, that great 2E group I was in from the 90s basically broke up over 3E, with a bunch leaving to go back to 1E (with one of them saying - with a straight face - that 1E was the cleanest & tightest rules system ever.)  About the only thing that got universal praise was demons & devils being called demons & devils again, instead of baatzu and tannari or whatever it was.And, look at your Dragon magazine letters to the editor when 2E was coming out around 1989 or 1990 - similar bashing of 2E - dumbing the game down, no heart/soul, bad artwork, trying too hard to appeal to women/minorities, etc.And, when 6E comes out in the 2020s, we'll have similar issues.</blockquote>

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