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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 6250333" data-attributes="member: 2205">I have.  The answer there is wrong.  It is, in fact, propagandistic.Although why that's an issue is beyond me.  What significant aspect of anybody's gaming is impacted by whether or not it's a "revision" or a "new edition?"  And what's the criteria for interpreting which it is, anyway?  As has been said already here, the differences between BD&D, 1e and 2e were on a similar scale.  And 1e and 2e are considered different editions, and BD&D is considered a completely separate game.But that's all rather arbitrary, because those labels are defined by the company trying to market their product in a certain way, not by anything substantial.I refer to 3e, 3.5, and Pathfinder as seperate editions (or a completely different game entirely in the case of Pathfinder) while acknowledging their relatively high level of mutual compatability.  Some claim in the beginning of the 3.5 PHB isn't going to change my mind on that.That's not correct.  Sarcasm is not a failure of communication, unless you a priori decide that sarcastic communication is failed communication.  You've stated that as if it were a truism, when in fact all it is a circular statement.In this you are completely wrong.  I've been in many conversations that were hybrid Spanish/Portuguese or Spanish/Italian, and which changed throughout the conversation to shades of one or the other.  It was never clear exactly which language we were speaking (well, I was only speaking Spanish, because I don't really speak Portuguese or Italian, but the folks I was conversing with were slipping in and out of two languages in the same conversation. Sometimes in the same sentence.)Likewise, Asturian speakers, when surveyed, didn't even realize that Asturian was a separate language in depressingly large numbers; they thought they just spoke really bad hillbilly Spanish.  Valencia has been the subject of bitter linguistic debates about whether or not speakers are speaking Valencian or Catalan.  The same kind of debates characterize Gascons vs. speakers of Provençal or other Occitan dialects.Contrary to your assertion, the degree of difference between them is not a hyperbolic misstatement on my part.  You're simply (it seems) uninformed on the linguistic issues that I referred to in my analogy.And I also disagree that you can get very far mixing 3e, 3.5 and Pathfinder characters in the same game without realizing it.  As soon as there's any combat, as soon as there's skill checks, as soon as a spell is cast--in other words, as soon as there's any meaningful interaction with the rules at all--there's going to be major discrepancies.  "What do you mean, what's my CMD?  What's a CMD?"</blockquote>

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