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The Great D&D Schism: The End of an age and the scattering of gamers
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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 6250859" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>Yeah, I mean who knows, and it doesn't take a big schism for people to act like jerks. But certainly in this case there seemed to be some level of ambient contempt or dislike of folks who used other editions.</p><p></p><p>One thing that I think is sadly a bit too common amongst Pathfinder fandom, bless their hearts, is that many of them have become very factionalized. They dislike D&D, WotC, and are so rah-rah Paizo that they're kinda missing out on anything else that's going on in the industry. I think a bunch of them are that way because they felt burned by the way WotC handled them with the roll-out of 4e, and they felt listened to and respected by the way Paizo rolled out Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>So, in spite of my warnings to be careful about what you call, I do think it is indeed very likely that D&D fandom was fractured by a number of things that all happened at more or less the same time (announcement of 4e, OSRIC and the retro-clones passed a potential legal challenge, and thereby enabled the OSR, Paizo went their own way with Pathfinder, specifically marketing to folks who <em>didn't</em> want to change to 4e, etc.) and that feelings run very deeply still over that schism. I think it's a real thing.</p><p></p><p>I'm just not particularly upset by it. I actually think it's been good overall. The only downside is that it's potentially harder to find players for the game you want to play. Since I'm not moving anytime soon, and my gaming group seems pretty stable, I think I'm OK on that front for the time being.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 6250859, member: 2205"] Yeah, I mean who knows, and it doesn't take a big schism for people to act like jerks. But certainly in this case there seemed to be some level of ambient contempt or dislike of folks who used other editions. One thing that I think is sadly a bit too common amongst Pathfinder fandom, bless their hearts, is that many of them have become very factionalized. They dislike D&D, WotC, and are so rah-rah Paizo that they're kinda missing out on anything else that's going on in the industry. I think a bunch of them are that way because they felt burned by the way WotC handled them with the roll-out of 4e, and they felt listened to and respected by the way Paizo rolled out Pathfinder. So, in spite of my warnings to be careful about what you call, I do think it is indeed very likely that D&D fandom was fractured by a number of things that all happened at more or less the same time (announcement of 4e, OSRIC and the retro-clones passed a potential legal challenge, and thereby enabled the OSR, Paizo went their own way with Pathfinder, specifically marketing to folks who [I]didn't[/I] want to change to 4e, etc.) and that feelings run very deeply still over that schism. I think it's a real thing. I'm just not particularly upset by it. I actually think it's been good overall. The only downside is that it's potentially harder to find players for the game you want to play. Since I'm not moving anytime soon, and my gaming group seems pretty stable, I think I'm OK on that front for the time being. [/QUOTE]
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