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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6255164" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I have, I even did watch it again before posting and still don't see anything wrong...</p><p></p><p> I can't see it still, I loved 2e, and I make jokes about thac0 and unintuitive initiative all the time... so Those jokes were right on. </p><p>The only 3e 'joke' was going through the book looking for an obscure sub set of rules... something that we saw all the time and didn't see anything wrong with then or now... although I don't think 4e was entirely without that problem (because printing out cards for each rule is not better) I still don't see anything wrong. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Well I guess I am stupid then. I could not in 2002, 2003,2004,or 2007 do any of the following with out opening a book... Disarm, Grapple, Trip, Sunder... to this day even after watching that video I do not know what steps 2-4 are on the grapple rules, but because I just watched it like 3 times I know it starts with an opp attack.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I was just the target audience for the commercial and as such loved it (although I could go with out the French accent) </p><p></p><p></p><p>It was basically a teaser... so it focused not on the best of each edition but the worst.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>now to all four of you, have you never seen any of that in play? </p><p></p><p>by the way I have seen erasers as minis, and even "hey what does that represent" being something just fallen on the table, and everyone pulling out books to search normally ends with "Guys page XX" then everyone turning to it. And that was not just 3e, but 2e with options (especially combat and tactics) and World of Darkness (even worse when you need to read 3 paragraphs of flavor text with rules hidden within) and Rifts... the searchable databse of rules for 4e on my iPhone was a little bit better... not much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6255164, member: 67338"] I have, I even did watch it again before posting and still don't see anything wrong... I can't see it still, I loved 2e, and I make jokes about thac0 and unintuitive initiative all the time... so Those jokes were right on. The only 3e 'joke' was going through the book looking for an obscure sub set of rules... something that we saw all the time and didn't see anything wrong with then or now... although I don't think 4e was entirely without that problem (because printing out cards for each rule is not better) I still don't see anything wrong. Well I guess I am stupid then. I could not in 2002, 2003,2004,or 2007 do any of the following with out opening a book... Disarm, Grapple, Trip, Sunder... to this day even after watching that video I do not know what steps 2-4 are on the grapple rules, but because I just watched it like 3 times I know it starts with an opp attack. Maybe I was just the target audience for the commercial and as such loved it (although I could go with out the French accent) It was basically a teaser... so it focused not on the best of each edition but the worst. now to all four of you, have you never seen any of that in play? by the way I have seen erasers as minis, and even "hey what does that represent" being something just fallen on the table, and everyone pulling out books to search normally ends with "Guys page XX" then everyone turning to it. And that was not just 3e, but 2e with options (especially combat and tactics) and World of Darkness (even worse when you need to read 3 paragraphs of flavor text with rules hidden within) and Rifts... the searchable databse of rules for 4e on my iPhone was a little bit better... not much. [/QUOTE]
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