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<blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 1667949" data-attributes="member: 2238"><p>re: Anime.</p><p></p><p>Try Princess Monoke with the subtitles, and dubbed in French. You get about 50% more story with the subtitles, and the french voice acting is better than the English or Japanese.</p><p></p><p>One suggestion. I hate most anime. Most of it IMO is stupid and pretentious. The rest of it kills a concept (ranma 1/2) or starts off with a good idea that flys into left field (evangelion) and/or has a terrible ending (escaflowne). And even more of it is wash rince repeat. Some of it is really cool looking (MD Geist, GITS). Very little of it is really good on in a drama/storytelling sense (not to say there is not DRAMA). Some of it is just really funny without intending to be (If you are ever drinking heavily and are bored try A Wind Called Amnesia, with the self repairing robot that will never stop driving the plot!) I don't care if you like anime or not. I am not saying you should like it. But I know a good TV show when I see it.</p><p></p><p>In that light I would recommend to you Cowboy Bebop. This anime is so un-anime in its presentation that it was not very popular in japan by anime standards (or so I hear). No j-pop soundtrack. It draws off ska, jazz, metal, blues, and classical, i.e. it uses real music. No cute characters (ok the dog and the kid can be cute, but its not cute in the girl sense) or excessive blood spraying violence. People do get shot and hurt, but the bleeding is realistic and the injury does not become the central thing. It has sexy people but no gratuitous sex (or sex for that matter, though there are some scenes where it is implied). There IS a LOT of smoking however. I do not think there has been a better cartoon series made, except maybe macross (yeah I said CARTOON!). Mainly because they drop a lot of anime conventions and tip the hat to cinema (refernces to seven samurai, casino, eastwood flicks, Desperado, Hong Kong Crime flicks, and a slew of others.) Think lots of Jazz, 9mms, Cigarettes, classic cars, space ships, kung fu, planetary colonies, understandable plots, really cool engrossing characters, an episode that makes fun of outdated video formats, great chase scenes, and good appropriate comic relief. </p><p></p><p>This is the series that most "true" anime fans really don't like IME. I think thats the reason why I like it so much, it throws anime conventions out the window in favor of cinematic conventions. Also its episodic. While more is learned about the characters from watching them all, each episode stands on its own. It also has a motion picture that is simply like a big episode. This makes it easy to try out cause you only have to waste 20 minutes of your life to see if you like it. Rent the first or second disk and see. It sounds like you have a lot of the same probs with anime that I have. Which might mean you will like this. I would recommend subtitles as one character's nature is sort of lost in the dub. However, if you hate subtitles, the dub is one of the best ever IMO (not much content is lost). </p><p></p><p>Aaron</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jester47, post: 1667949, member: 2238"] re: Anime. Try Princess Monoke with the subtitles, and dubbed in French. You get about 50% more story with the subtitles, and the french voice acting is better than the English or Japanese. One suggestion. I hate most anime. Most of it IMO is stupid and pretentious. The rest of it kills a concept (ranma 1/2) or starts off with a good idea that flys into left field (evangelion) and/or has a terrible ending (escaflowne). And even more of it is wash rince repeat. Some of it is really cool looking (MD Geist, GITS). Very little of it is really good on in a drama/storytelling sense (not to say there is not DRAMA). Some of it is just really funny without intending to be (If you are ever drinking heavily and are bored try A Wind Called Amnesia, with the self repairing robot that will never stop driving the plot!) I don't care if you like anime or not. I am not saying you should like it. But I know a good TV show when I see it. In that light I would recommend to you Cowboy Bebop. This anime is so un-anime in its presentation that it was not very popular in japan by anime standards (or so I hear). No j-pop soundtrack. It draws off ska, jazz, metal, blues, and classical, i.e. it uses real music. No cute characters (ok the dog and the kid can be cute, but its not cute in the girl sense) or excessive blood spraying violence. People do get shot and hurt, but the bleeding is realistic and the injury does not become the central thing. It has sexy people but no gratuitous sex (or sex for that matter, though there are some scenes where it is implied). There IS a LOT of smoking however. I do not think there has been a better cartoon series made, except maybe macross (yeah I said CARTOON!). Mainly because they drop a lot of anime conventions and tip the hat to cinema (refernces to seven samurai, casino, eastwood flicks, Desperado, Hong Kong Crime flicks, and a slew of others.) Think lots of Jazz, 9mms, Cigarettes, classic cars, space ships, kung fu, planetary colonies, understandable plots, really cool engrossing characters, an episode that makes fun of outdated video formats, great chase scenes, and good appropriate comic relief. This is the series that most "true" anime fans really don't like IME. I think thats the reason why I like it so much, it throws anime conventions out the window in favor of cinematic conventions. Also its episodic. While more is learned about the characters from watching them all, each episode stands on its own. It also has a motion picture that is simply like a big episode. This makes it easy to try out cause you only have to waste 20 minutes of your life to see if you like it. Rent the first or second disk and see. It sounds like you have a lot of the same probs with anime that I have. Which might mean you will like this. I would recommend subtitles as one character's nature is sort of lost in the dub. However, if you hate subtitles, the dub is one of the best ever IMO (not much content is lost). Aaron [/QUOTE]
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