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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 251857" data-attributes="member: 141">Quoted from the Heretic of Wyre thread:I honestly can't see how such a thing would work.Suppose the most powerful wizard in Wyre slew a king's bodyguard and retinue, and seized power.  While he is bogged down with ending opposition to his reign, killing off heirs, etc., sendings criss-cross Wyre and dozens of mages teleport or ride broomstick to tell everyone that The Great Injunction Has Been Broken.How would the wizards discuss strategy?  They don't have any leaders who can summon them to one spot.  If they did, differences in race, alignment and ideology would prevent them from deciding upon a coherent strategy of dealing with the Wizard-King.  And it would be stupid for them to retaliate as individuals; the Wizard-King would defeat them piece-meal.But back to the first point- why would the wizards of Wyre gather in the first place.  If I were a stereotypically self-involved and cowardly mage, would I drop my current research and experimentation in order to go off to a bedlam of mages?  (If I were lawful neutral or good, perhaps.  If I were neutral or chaotic, probably not.)  My thinking would be that either the Council could solve the problem without me, in which case my presence is unnecessary, or it could only do it with my help, which means that the forces are so easily matched that my chances of survival are almost nil.  I'd keep my head low.If low-level mages (especially in far off points of Wyre) don't get involved in the battle against the Wizard-King, who is to blame them?  And when does "low-level" become high enough?  When they can cast Teleport?  In other words, if the 5th level wizards don't go, why should the 6th level wizards?  And if the 6th level wizards don't go, why should the 7th levels?  And so on.  And who is going to go around and ensure that everyone who can cast Teleport (or whatever) is active in the retaliation against the WK?  Who is going to decide (and administer) the punishment afterwards for failing to join the coalition?  Who decides if a wizard who does show up does all that he can do to defeat the WK, as opposed to casting a few spells and then fleeing for home?And all this is without considering the fact the WK will have spies and allies on the Council.  Not many, perhaps, but they will exist, and they will greatly impede the Council's ability to decide on a course of action, and then implement it.  They'd sabotage the efforts from the inside, and maybe even turn against the Council at the worst possible moment.Now, this is for a scenario that has the Injunction absolutely smashed, and where a strong, concerted effort is absolutely necessary.  What about where the breaking of the Injunction is doubtful?  Wizards have very high intelligence scores, and can probably find a loophole in just about anything.  And sorcerers are charismatic and persuasive enough to talk their way out of almost anything else.  They may have persuaded themselves that they have found a loophole- neither wizards nor sorcerers need be very wise, after all, and self-deception is certainly a possibility. What I think would happen is that a handful of high level wizards would decide that Something Has to Be Done, and then they would dither around for a while deciding exactly what, and who would do it, and when.  By then it would be too late.The Great Injunction is a paper tiger.Anyone disagree?-Cheiromancer</blockquote>

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