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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9758891" data-attributes="member: 4937">I'm not changing my claim at all.  I'm trying to get to my end destination in a series of steps where I think the final destination is too big to get people there all at once.  So I'm having some degree of pushback to the idea that time skips even can be railroading.  I'm trying to get people to see how they could be railroading before going to the harder step of showing how they are always railroading.Albeit I think once we get to the general agreement that railroading is quantitative thing rather than a qualitative thing, then I will agree with you that many time skips involve very little railroading - just a normal background noise of railroading that's impossible to avoid.But don't mistake me for changing my opinion here.I know why I'm getting pushback.  Way back at the beginning of this I outlined why I'd get push back and why people would find my claim objectionable.I tried to explain to you at the time that generally the timeskip, "Can we say it is morning now?" isn't about skipping the sleep.  Sleep is by definition a real-world time skip because the thing simulated here "sleep" is a thing in which you aren't conscious.  The time skip here in "Can we say it is morning now?" is generally about not skipping the sleep, but skipping however many hours remain in the day before sleep would generally be assumed so that we can push forward to the next event in the narrative (for whatever reason).  So what I was trying to get you to see is that the sleep isn't really the relevant part of the time skip.  It's the forcing players to accept sleep so that we can time skip that is relevant.</blockquote>

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