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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9764577" data-attributes="member: 6901101">Ha! Death by Enya sounds like a very slooooooooowwwwww way to go. And I hear you. I am unsure who actually believes that happens all the time, but I guess someone will always play Devil's Advocate. That is one of the reasons why I think the entire debate is silly. You will always get someone who says railroading is everywhere, and that DMs do this all the time. Yet, we have a zillion YouTube D&D games that say differently. We have giant convention halls running D&D games that say differently. We have tables at gaming stores across the country that host D&D that say differently. We have tons of pay-to-play D&D sessions that say differently. And we have my experience of playing in many states with many groups dammit - that say differently.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Again, that is why the debate is so silly and disingenuous. The evidence is clear. But even if that evidence is accepted, the debate suddenly shifts to semantics, the old, "Railroading is defined as a lack of player agency," or "Railroading is linear." You know, basically definitions that have no real meaning. This way they can be morphed to fit whatever argument the person wants to make.</blockquote>