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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9771918" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Wasn't intending to mock you but multiclassing changes things a lot.&nbsp; Do you dispute that the charisma based MC characters have more options than the wizard?&nbsp; Theres to many variables as well once MCing enters the mix.&nbsp;New Paladin and Ranger offers some interesting possibilities though. Great dip levels. &nbsp;Some other things. &nbsp;You're aware Treantmonk&nbsp; kinda gets mocked elsewhere along with Colby at d4?&nbsp; I know you like them and reference them a lot. [MEDIA=youtube]n9qhaXyYCGE[/MEDIA]&nbsp; Chromatic orb huh. Took him long enough. His build sucks as well. My wife's better at building it than he is. We're doing it faster and better lol.&nbsp;Treantmonk builds also kinda suck. He's decent for guidelines fir say strikers and he's not even that goid at building them. [MEDIA=youtube]N2iNVAPP96c[/MEDIA].&nbsp;Latest video he's using only 2024 material. He wanted to add hex to his build but wasn't using 2014 material. Much like Treantmonk he doesn't know you can 2024 phb. Yet another bad build. Much like Treantmonk. I mock those guys because theyre bad@game or at least not as good as they think they are.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 9771918, member: 6716779"] Wasn't intending to mock you but multiclassing changes things a lot. Do you dispute that the charisma based MC characters have more options than the wizard? Theres to many variables as well once MCing enters the mix. New Paladin and Ranger offers some interesting possibilities though. Great dip levels. Some other things. You're aware Treantmonk kinda gets mocked elsewhere along with Colby at d4? I know you like them and reference them a lot. [MEDIA=youtube]n9qhaXyYCGE[/MEDIA] Chromatic orb huh. Took him long enough. His build sucks as well. My wife's better at building it than he is. We're doing it faster and better lol. Treantmonk builds also kinda suck. He's decent for guidelines fir say strikers and he's not even that goid at building them. [MEDIA=youtube]N2iNVAPP96c[/MEDIA] . Latest video he's using only 2024 material. He wanted to add hex to his build but wasn't using 2014 material. Much like Treantmonk he doesn't know you can 2024 phb. Yet another bad build. Much like Treantmonk. I mock those guys because theyre bad@game or at least not as good as they think they are. [/QUOTE]

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