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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 8954820" data-attributes="member: 7808">It would be a lot easier to take these lists seriously if they were &quot;Snarf's Favorites&quot; instead of &quot;The Greatest of All Time&quot;.The most immediate and glaring omission from this list is The Oregon Trail.&nbsp; It first appeared as an unlicensed text game in 1971.&nbsp; But the classic version with the graphical interface, as well as the first non-text version published by MECC (which is to say, this is the version that kids everywhere in the US grew up with), was first released on the Apple II (in 1985).&nbsp; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_(1985_video_game)" target="_blank">The Oregon Trail (1985 video game) - Wikipedia</a>Also, while we're on the subject of educational games, I'm going to give a shout out to Number Munchers.And as another honorable mention, but clearly not the best game ever, was a crappy little one off game called &quot;Oh Deer&quot; that I have never seen anyone else talk about.&nbsp; It's a bizarre &quot;sim&quot; style game where you are elected the game warden (or something similar) of a small town and tasked with keeping the local population of white tailed deer in check.&nbsp; It is completely forgettable.&nbsp; Except for the fact that it's effectively impossible to win.&nbsp; If you don't get rid of enough deer, you lose.&nbsp; If you have too many deer hunted/killed, the townspeople get angry at you and you lose.&nbsp; If you spend too much money on having deer trapped an relocated, the townspeople get angry about the cost and you lose.&nbsp; I literally never found a way to keep the town happy.&nbsp; Either there were too many deer, too much hunting, or you spent too much money.&nbsp; My sister was the only person who ever won when, randomly, a forest fire happened.&nbsp; That killed the deer naturally, so the goal without spending any money, and no one in the town was angry at you.&nbsp; At the time, I though this was an amazingly stupid game.&nbsp; As an adult, I recognize that it is the most realistic &quot;sim&quot; game that I have every played.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 8954820, member: 7808"] It would be a lot easier to take these lists seriously if they were "Snarf's Favorites" instead of "The Greatest of All Time". The most immediate and glaring omission from this list is The Oregon Trail. It first appeared as an unlicensed text game in 1971. But the classic version with the graphical interface, as well as the first non-text version published by MECC (which is to say, this is the version that kids everywhere in the US grew up with), was first released on the Apple II (in 1985). [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_(1985_video_game)']The Oregon Trail (1985 video game) - Wikipedia[/URL] Also, while we're on the subject of educational games, I'm going to give a shout out to Number Munchers. And as another honorable mention, but clearly not the best game ever, was a crappy little one off game called "Oh Deer" that I have never seen anyone else talk about. It's a bizarre "sim" style game where you are elected the game warden (or something similar) of a small town and tasked with keeping the local population of white tailed deer in check. It is completely forgettable. Except for the fact that it's effectively impossible to win. If you don't get rid of enough deer, you lose. If you have too many deer hunted/killed, the townspeople get angry at you and you lose. If you spend too much money on having deer trapped an relocated, the townspeople get angry about the cost and you lose. I literally never found a way to keep the town happy. Either there were too many deer, too much hunting, or you spent too much money. My sister was the only person who ever won when, randomly, a forest fire happened. That killed the deer naturally, so the goal without spending any money, and no one in the town was angry at you. At the time, I though this was an amazingly stupid game. As an adult, I recognize that it is the most realistic "sim" game that I have every played. [/QUOTE]

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