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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9610095" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>This is 100% the vibe, yeah. Like it's the sort of thing I might have done when I was like 22 and extremely pleased with myself for having read a lot of the Western Canon.</p><p></p><p>There's also a lot of 'airlifting' going on - i.e. stuff that's clearly from genre works being called "literary" for the sake of inclusion. There's no way Steven King's <em>It</em> is literary first, genre-second, even if you could maybe argue that for LotR. Let alone President Snow.</p><p></p><p>Also there's some absolute ridiculous shenanigans going on when Humbert Humbert - a simple self-deluding pervert/sex offender (basically a criminal and loser and not much else) is a "[better] villain" (their words not mine) than Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes, who is one of the premier villains of detective fiction! I feel like people voted for Humbert because they were afraid to fail to condemn pedos in the eyes of their peers, not because they were actually looking at who was a well-rendered and truly villainous character.</p><p></p><p>And why is Caliban even in there? He's not even a villain and there are like fourteen actual villains from Shakespeare that could have had the slot! Don't even get me started on Frankenstein's Monster - including him is just trolling lol. (Yeah, I see that they're in anti-villains, but there are several straight-up evil characters in there, which makes it a weird category to even include.)</p><p></p><p>As for the current bracket, Napoleon should win it, but someone trite like Sauron probably will. Despite 90% of the people voting don't even understand the nature of Sauron's villainy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9610095, member: 18"] This is 100% the vibe, yeah. Like it's the sort of thing I might have done when I was like 22 and extremely pleased with myself for having read a lot of the Western Canon. There's also a lot of 'airlifting' going on - i.e. stuff that's clearly from genre works being called "literary" for the sake of inclusion. There's no way Steven King's [I]It[/I] is literary first, genre-second, even if you could maybe argue that for LotR. Let alone President Snow. Also there's some absolute ridiculous shenanigans going on when Humbert Humbert - a simple self-deluding pervert/sex offender (basically a criminal and loser and not much else) is a "[better] villain" (their words not mine) than Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes, who is one of the premier villains of detective fiction! I feel like people voted for Humbert because they were afraid to fail to condemn pedos in the eyes of their peers, not because they were actually looking at who was a well-rendered and truly villainous character. And why is Caliban even in there? He's not even a villain and there are like fourteen actual villains from Shakespeare that could have had the slot! Don't even get me started on Frankenstein's Monster - including him is just trolling lol. (Yeah, I see that they're in anti-villains, but there are several straight-up evil characters in there, which makes it a weird category to even include.) As for the current bracket, Napoleon should win it, but someone trite like Sauron probably will. Despite 90% of the people voting don't even understand the nature of Sauron's villainy. [/QUOTE]
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