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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4405693" data-attributes="member: 72317">There are people who don't go demigod? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Starting wis of 18 is not impossible. Seems that for a wizard, wis is arguably worth more than int (seeing how it also powers thunderwave), so as a human, elf or dwarf, you can probably afford a wis of 18 (which is really just 16 before the stat boost). So you begin with int16/wis18.Plus, I wager it is only a matter of time before wotc does release a race which grants +2 to both int and wis.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Oh trust me when I say I have been there with regards to DM optimizing as a way of matching PC optimizing. In fact, I wouldn't expect anything less, though I believe that it might be better for the goose than the gander.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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