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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5764621" data-attributes="member: 6957">Sorry, you are of course correct - my brain had latched on to the other infamous Wyatt quote. (Which I read literally a day after my players had gone 'traipsing through a faerie ring to interact with the little people'.) Raises my blood pressure. Throughout this thread my brain was attributing the quote to those preview books. I did read the 4e DMG, which seemed very much a mix of good advice that was never built upon and advice that ran counter to my experience. I'm sure that there was some actual good advice, most likely a majority, but the exceptions stuck in my mind. Almost all of it dealing with encounters.... But by that point I was already turned off by 4e, so I will admit to bias.Seems like Wyatt was the go to guy for bad-wrong-fun quotes though.The Auld Grump</blockquote>