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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5766153" data-attributes="member: 8835">I don't know about that.&nbsp; I think I took a good attempt to answer jester's question within the context of Wyatt's advice that supports jester's preferred means of play.And moving the goal posts MAY be an attempt to reach a middle ground.&nbsp; it certainly may be an attempt by a person to consider an alternate viewpoint compared to their original starting position.&nbsp; Failure to change your argument would be a sign of failure of a discussion.&nbsp; because saying the exact same thing means you haven't even listened or adjusted to facts that disprove your own position.Given that I never read a 4e document, my impression of 4e is colored by technical descriptions of the mechanics being contrary to what I prefer in 3e.Nor would I take offense at any game's directions and description of its recommended usage pattern and how that would be fun.No.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5766153, member: 8835"] I don't know about that. I think I took a good attempt to answer jester's question within the context of Wyatt's advice that supports jester's preferred means of play. And moving the goal posts MAY be an attempt to reach a middle ground. it certainly may be an attempt by a person to consider an alternate viewpoint compared to their original starting position. Failure to change your argument would be a sign of failure of a discussion. because saying the exact same thing means you haven't even listened or adjusted to facts that disprove your own position. Given that I never read a 4e document, my impression of 4e is colored by technical descriptions of the mechanics being contrary to what I prefer in 3e. Nor would I take offense at any game's directions and description of its recommended usage pattern and how that would be fun. No. [/QUOTE]

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