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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5770674" data-attributes="member: 6957">Yes, really, at least in regards to the core three books.Again, that thing called a 'qualifier'.Hey, guess what? Wyatt did not use them. And, yes, really, they are that important. So, yes, I am claiming that they are different. Clear on that now? You can disagree if you want - but the lack of qualifiers is something that can be empirically proven in the case of Wyatt's quotes, and qualifiers can be empirically proven to exist in the quote from the great demon Gax that is being hauled out.I would also be more forgiving of Gygax than Mr. Wyatt - at the time Gygax wasn't up to the standards to which game designers are held today - there were too dang few to compare them.  It is likely that you actually have more respect for E.G.G. than I do - the one time that I met him (C. 1981) I was not impressed, he was by turns condescending and pseudo-unctious, filled with self importance. (A sin that I am, of course, completely free of....)I can find plenty of quotes by him that annoy the heck out of me, including some in the DMG (the one about using only official D&D miniatures comes to mind), but that one flaw of unqualifying dismissal of playstyle is not one that I can lay to his door.The Auld Grump</blockquote>