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The Gygaxian Origins of Drow and Some Thought on their Depiction As Villians
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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 8026577" data-attributes="member: 6683613"><p>I honestly don't understand you here. If one society does this and another doesn't, I think we're on solid definitional ground calling the first society more matriarchal than the second.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, first of all, history unfortunately shows there's nothing cartoonish about the idea of extreme patriarchies.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, you're basically right, I could point to a couple of specific societies in specific settings that are less strictly matriarchal, but the drow are the only major one in default D&D. What does this mean, though? Does crazy drow culture have to be representative of all matriarchies, or can it just be crazy drow culture?</p><p></p><p>And thirdly, it's a bit strange to me to be looking for positive representation for matriarchies in the first place. There's a world of difference between that and positive representation for <em>women</em>. Flip the script: if orcs were the only patriarchy, would it make sense to say, "Hey, that's not fair to patriarchy, let's add some more positive portrayals of patriarchal societies"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 8026577, member: 6683613"] I honestly don't understand you here. If one society does this and another doesn't, I think we're on solid definitional ground calling the first society more matriarchal than the second. Well, first of all, history unfortunately shows there's nothing cartoonish about the idea of extreme patriarchies. Secondly, you're basically right, I could point to a couple of specific societies in specific settings that are less strictly matriarchal, but the drow are the only major one in default D&D. What does this mean, though? Does crazy drow culture have to be representative of all matriarchies, or can it just be crazy drow culture? And thirdly, it's a bit strange to me to be looking for positive representation for matriarchies in the first place. There's a world of difference between that and positive representation for [I]women[/I]. Flip the script: if orcs were the only patriarchy, would it make sense to say, "Hey, that's not fair to patriarchy, let's add some more positive portrayals of patriarchal societies"? [/QUOTE]
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