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The Gygaxian Origins of Drow and Some Thought on their Depiction As Villians
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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 8028182" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously I disagree. I think you are attributing motivations to an entire group of people. Why is a Christian getting offended because he's upset his religion isn't being treated as 'default' somehow different than a Jew or Muslim or whatever? No difference. I think you're grasping at straws here. IMNSHO, Christians don't want "special treatment for <em>their </em>religion to be treated as default" any more than Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Sikh's, or any other religion. They ALL want their religion to be the.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying "if whites use 'cracker', they shouldn't get upset when other people do" (for example)...because, well, yeah. I agree with that. If you don't want some word to be used...don't use it. It's like swearing/cursing around children. If you don't want your 5 year old dropping f-bombs all over the playground...maybe not use the f-word so much. That's just common sense, really.</p><p></p><p>The walking on eggshells comment wasn't an evasion, just a comment on the current state of western countries social situation. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Have you ever read various forums, video sites, social media sites, etc., ToS's? They have, of late (last couple years) taken to adding in VERY vague statements that, effectively, let them use anything they want as a reason to ban someone. It's called "Cancel Culture" right now, sometimes "DePlatforming" or even "DePersoning" in extreme examples. Where one social media site decides "We don't like this person's opinion, so we're going to ban them under [whatever vague rule they have in their ToS]". Then others go to every other social media site they can find that the person is on, and complain/point out to that site's owners/moderators "Hey, this person is [insert some label] and is banned for [insert vague rule from other site]. You should ban them too or you are a [insert same label the person was assigned]". ....and these social media sites are all too willing to just say "Oh. Ok. Banned". This trickles down all over the internet...including sites that have NOTHING to do with social media/opinions (re: PayPal, Patreon, even Mastercard or CapitalOne...can you imagine? Getting a notice from your banks saying "We don't like your opinions. We are closing your accounts. Here's your money...minus all the fees for withdrawing all your money and closing your account, of course"? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite12" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" loading="lazy" data-shortname="o_O" /> <em>insanity</em></p><p></p><p>But this is my last statement along these sub-topics here. The thread is about Drow and whatnot. Say your peace, or better yet, just PM me if you think I said something that you think I didn't understand or you want to make more clear to me. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 8028182, member: 45197"] Hiya! Obviously I disagree. I think you are attributing motivations to an entire group of people. Why is a Christian getting offended because he's upset his religion isn't being treated as 'default' somehow different than a Jew or Muslim or whatever? No difference. I think you're grasping at straws here. IMNSHO, Christians don't want "special treatment for [I]their [/I]religion to be treated as default" any more than Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Sikh's, or any other religion. They ALL want their religion to be the. I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying "if whites use 'cracker', they shouldn't get upset when other people do" (for example)...because, well, yeah. I agree with that. If you don't want some word to be used...don't use it. It's like swearing/cursing around children. If you don't want your 5 year old dropping f-bombs all over the playground...maybe not use the f-word so much. That's just common sense, really. The walking on eggshells comment wasn't an evasion, just a comment on the current state of western countries social situation. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Have you ever read various forums, video sites, social media sites, etc., ToS's? They have, of late (last couple years) taken to adding in VERY vague statements that, effectively, let them use anything they want as a reason to ban someone. It's called "Cancel Culture" right now, sometimes "DePlatforming" or even "DePersoning" in extreme examples. Where one social media site decides "We don't like this person's opinion, so we're going to ban them under [whatever vague rule they have in their ToS]". Then others go to every other social media site they can find that the person is on, and complain/point out to that site's owners/moderators "Hey, this person is [insert some label] and is banned for [insert vague rule from other site]. You should ban them too or you are a [insert same label the person was assigned]". ....and these social media sites are all too willing to just say "Oh. Ok. Banned". This trickles down all over the internet...including sites that have NOTHING to do with social media/opinions (re: PayPal, Patreon, even Mastercard or CapitalOne...can you imagine? Getting a notice from your banks saying "We don't like your opinions. We are closing your accounts. Here's your money...minus all the fees for withdrawing all your money and closing your account, of course"? o_O [I]insanity[/I] But this is my last statement along these sub-topics here. The thread is about Drow and whatnot. Say your peace, or better yet, just PM me if you think I said something that you think I didn't understand or you want to make more clear to me. :) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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