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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Count Arioch the 28t" data-source="post: 1528584" data-attributes="member: 16676">To aid this debate, I will put in the downsides to both half giants and half ogres.Half giants get -2 to dexHalf ogres get -2 to dex, int, and cha.Half ogres have the pretty sexy powrful build ability, where they get to be counted as large for most purposes, and medium for others.Therefore:Half Giants:  5' reach Half ogres:  10' reach, but -1 to AC, -1 to hit, -4 to hide bonusesNow ask yourself, is an extra 5' of reach worth -1 AC, -1 to hit, and -4 penalty to hide?  That's for you to answer, I have my own opinions, but I'm keeping them out of this debate for now.Half giants get Stomp, which scales by Charisma bonus for DC, and does 1d4 more damage per 2 levels.  Not that great, but if you work that charisma, maybe take Skill Focus (Whcih you can take with various SLA or PsLA abilities), you got a neat trick once a day.).  Furthermore, you get +2 to saving throws versus fire, and 2 psionic PP at 1st level, which allows them to take psionic feats without actually having a psionic class.   Half ogres have better natural armor (+4 as opposed to +0) and better vision (Darkvision as opposed to low light vision.)   Both are of the giant type, which is either a boon or a curse, depending on how your DM runs things.  (For example, if you get a magic item that can only be used by giants, it's good.  If you face lots of giant hating dwarf rangers, it's bad, really bad.)Those are the facts.  I will allow you all to from your own opinions based from this info, I allow both at LA +1, and don't feel bad for it, they are very different beasts altogether. But I'm not going to argue with people who disagree.</blockquote>

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