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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 8054395" data-attributes="member: 6777737">That's true, but the requirements for Paladin included Int 9, Wis 13, Cha 17, while the Ranger included Int 13 and Wis 14. Neither of these classes actually used these ability scores; you just had to have them as a gatekeeper. Since we actually wanted to play those classes, we just spotted the player the minimums and then had them roll the rest. They still got their two 15+ scores. on the remaining 4 stats. I don't think we spotted Int to Paladins, but I don't remember. It's not like 9 was really much of a limitation. I'm fairly certain that we did the same with the Druid, Monk, Illusionist, and Assassin.Over the 10-15 years I played AD&D, I only saw one good Paladin rolled legitimately on all 6 stats and it was by me. If we had actually waited to play some of the higher requisite classes until we rolled them, the game wouldn't have been nearly as fun and we wouldn't have experienced remotely as much as we did.</blockquote>